Diego Estrada Ran a 20-miler at 4:55/mile Today

He isn't racing, he's tempoing it. This dude ran his first 1/2 marathon in 1:01 and looked fresh, he may be the future for US marathoning. I expect him to be top 3 in LA 2:09 flat.

theodds wrote:

He isn't racing, he's tempoing it. This dude ran his first 1/2 marathon in 1:01 and looked fresh, he may be the future for US marathoning. I expect him to be top 3 in LA 2:09 flat.

Lol you're a moron. 2:09 flat in his debut?? Ok.

Rerunner wrote:

Others may be skeptical, but I am impressed. I wondered what he had been doing for all those years after CHiPs, and now I know. It will be great to see him once again on the streets and highways of LA, in just a couple of months!

Must have gotten rid of that ponch he had when he was riding his cycle all the time.

always a big gamble to go out that hard in your first marathon, no experience with the hydration and fueling requirements can bite you hard the last 5-6 miles. As we all know a 20 miler is no indicator what you will experience in a marathon.

I hope he does well as the top three positions are really up for grabs especially with Ritz fighting another injury.

I would really like to see Rupp in the race, with someone like Kibet not afraid to go with him.

Very hard to predict the top three especially if the pace is hard from the gun.

"No experience with hydration and fueling" - Idiot2015

C'mon dumba$$ this guy is a professional who has been racing for years and you're saying he has no experience with hydration after running 20 miles at 4:55 pace. Gtfo Lol.

he's run 7:47/13:15/27:30/60:51. Those are race times, not workouts.

I imagine he probably ran a smooth, controlled effort. He has the wheels but I think it's going to be very hard for him to nail it in the marathon trials, with tactics at hand and about 10 guys sticking their nose out in hopes to snag a spot on the team.

I'd be really interested to see how the race would unfold if he took it out hard. Would the pack let him go since he's too green in the marathon distance or would it turn it into a time trial race?

I'm really looking forward to this race and feel it's going to be one of the more exciting marathon trials.

nice language, sorry I didn't know that you knew everything about fueling in the marathon.

agc5k wrote:

If he can run that last 10k well, he'll be a shoe in for top 3 at the trials. And guys seldom run that long that pace because 1) its hard, 2) an effort that long takes forever to recover from.

What does "shoe in" mean?

I'm happy for Diego but the truth is that the guys that perform on race day are the guys you never hear about their workouts.

one more workout like that and he won't run worth a shit at the trials

Same mistake 99 percent of American Marathoners

jjjjj wrote:

he's run 7:47/13:15/27:30/60:51. Those are race times, not workouts.

He ran 7:44 indoors with Ryan hill

Being incredibly optimistic here, I believe Estrada is probably the strongest American heading into the trials. If this was a raced 20 miles, as long as he recovers, there is no problem. Plenty of marathon legends raced before big marathons.

Here is a workout from Ryan Hall prior to his 2011 Boston run. That supports my belief that Estrada is very likely to make the Olympic team and possibly win the trials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZGlH_paK9Y

Never seen that before wrote:

He tweeted about it.

Have you ever seen anything like this?

Is there any proof that the course he ran was 20 miles? How about the difficulty of the course and/or conditions?

Rerunner wrote:

Others may be skeptical, but I am impressed. I wondered what he had been doing for all those years after CHiPs, and now I know. It will be great to see him once again on the streets and highways of LA, in just a couple of months!

I think that might be ERIC ESTRADA.

FWIW MacMillan calculator gives it a straight conversion to 2:11:28 for the full. That is quite a workout.

So true, this is a race not a workout. Training like this is why the US (with the exception of Ryan Hall) has not improved in the marathon since the 1970's and 80's. Frank Shorter ran 2:10:30 in 1972 and that would be the number 2 time in the US this year.

So it will be an official "Left the race in the workout" if he doesn't break 2:11.

Nostalgicus Maximus wrote:

FWIW MacMillan calculator gives it a straight conversion to 2:11:28 for the full. That is quite a workout.

Far Out West wrote:

Training like this is why the US (with the exception of Ryan Hall) has not improved in the marathon since the 1970's and 80's.

How?