I think that one might be exactly what I'm looking for: fast but fair, reliably cool conditions, no wind, beautiful course at exactly the right time for my training window. Thanks very much!
edward teach wrote:
MM3307 wrote:Going up the 163 at mile 20 kills RnR as a fast course. It is pretty good otherwise. Ojai is now Mountains to Beach and has a significant amount of downhill, if your quads can take the beating you can get a good time. I've heard OC marathon has a favorable course but I haven't run that one. Surf City is a good course as well but the out-and-back along the bike path can be annoying.
I think avenue of the giants is supposed to be fast too.