Forget About Manning vs Brady - Kipsang vs Mutai - Who You Got - Office Men's Prediction Thread

Mutai hasn't looked like his 2011 self since, well, 2011.

Kipsang has been running well consistently, and most of all - recently.

I think its more likely Mutai has an off race than Kipsang does.

But if both are in form, I pick Mutai for the win.

rhymes with colt wrote:

Mutai hasn't looked like his 2011 self since, well, 2011.

Kipsang has been running well consistently, and most of all - recently.

I think its more likely Mutai has an off race than Kipsang does.

But if both are in form, I pick Mutai for the win.

Mutai's 2011 is one of -- if not the best -- year a marathoner has ever had. It's unlikely he'll ever be that good again.

Personally, I think it's too close to call with them. I also think that there's a chance Kipsang has an off race because he's not used to running a course like NYC.

I'll pick Mutai over Kipsang in this one, but with the conditions on race morning (22 mph winds and 30+mph gusts) I don't see either breaking 2:09.

Jonathan Gault wrote:Mutai's 2011 is one of -- if not the best -- year a marathoner has ever had

no

nyc-'11 is by far the best intrinsic M ever

sammy's peking win is close, but maybe not that close as arab was close-ish, but no one close to '11-time

Is it possible Geoffrey Mutai is getting old? Officially 33, but if it's one of those inaccurate ages he could be 36-40. He has not looked the same as his 2011 peak... fortunately his peak was really good.

Very close matchup on paper, I am going to say Kipsang is more likely to be in shape and properly peaked.

if the conditions aren't good Meb might have a shot. If the weather is good and it's a fast race he won't be able to hang but if it's rainy/windy and it comes down to a 2:09 race, who knows. A small strength runner like Meb can probably handle the wind better than a gazelle like Mutai or Kipsang.

ventolin^3 wrote:

Jonathan Gault wrote:Mutai's 2011 is one of -- if not the best -- year a marathoner has ever had

no

nyc-'11 is by far the best intrinsic M ever

sammy's peking win is close, but maybe not that close as arab was close-ish, but no one close to '11-time

Quoted for truth!

This is a dream matchup if kipsang and mutai are in shape. I can't wait!

ventolin^3 wrote:

Jonathan Gault wrote:Mutai's 2011 is one of -- if not the best -- year a marathoner has ever had

no

nyc-'11 is by far the best intrinsic M ever

sammy's peking win is close, but maybe not that close as arab was close-ish, but no one close to '11-time

Ventolin, I think you need to reread his post.

Mutai finishes

Kipsang does not

Kiprotich wins 2:08:00

The $500k WMM pot is enough motivation for Kipsang to take it. He will leave Mutai in the the Bronx and run solo up 5th and through the Park to victory.

Mutai will fall to 4th place behind Kiprotich and a patient Meb.

Kipsang: 2:07:35

Kiprotich: 2:08:20

Meb: 2:09:10

Mutai: 2:09:15

Agree, he is older than Geb who is 45+.

Since it going to be windy tomorrow, I see 2:08 at best.

Kipsang for the win.

I believe that Kipsang is currently the best in the world and could have beaten Kimetto at Berlin. So I say Kipsang. Seeing him crush everyone at the end of London was impressive.

But what do I know, I'm excited for tomorrow.

I will go with Geoffrey Mutai and Ednah Kiplagat.

Kipsang and Keitany will be second respectively.

If Mutai is in the shape that he claims to be, I don't see Kipsang beating him. He is perhaps better suited for Boston and NY courses as opposed to Kipsang who does very well in flat courses.

Great points. Another question is how they do in the cold weather. Probably to Mutai's advantage again. Although I wonder how many quality marathons such an older runner has left in them. Still, I like Mutai.

MarathonMind wrote:

Great points. Another question is how they do in the cold weather. Probably to Mutai's advantage again. Although I wonder how many quality marathons such an older runner has left in them. Still, I like Mutai.

I am not aware of the weather forecast tomorrow. If it'll be cold, that makes it even more unpredictable.

I'd have loved to see good weather and the threat to the course record.

Cold and windy:

Partly sunny, with a high near 47. Wind chill values between 30 and 40 early. Breezy, with a north wind 23 to 25 mph, with gusts as high as 37 mph.

forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=40.78&lon=-73.97

The wind and weather in general will play a massive role.Its no longer kipsang vs mutai but rather the field vs the weather hence why Meb or any one else least expected to win has a chance.if conditions improve I tip Mutai over Kipsang I think mutai is better on a hilly course

Sounds like quite a runner, this Patrick Kipsang.

rhymes with colt wrote:

Mutai hasn't looked like his 2011 self since, well, 2011.

Kipsang has been running well consistently, and most of all - recently.

I think its more likely Mutai has an off race than Kipsang does.

But if both are in form, I pick Mutai for the win.

This, sort of. I don't know that we will see 2011 Mutai again. I will pick Kipsang.