LRC Note: The
World Marathon Majors has issued a statement saying they are postponing Sunday's Awards Ceremonywhere Jeptoo was going to win the $500,000 WMM prize. She was the first athlete to win 4 straight WMM races.
These sorts of stories shouldn't be published unless the B comes back positive.
rhymes with colt wrote:
These sorts of stories shouldn't be published unless the B comes back positive.
Unless of course it's Lagat we are talking about. Then it is irrelevant whether the B is negative, he's guilty.
Pathetic double standard.
rhymes with colt wrote:
These sorts of stories shouldn't be published unless the B comes back positive.
Agreed. This is all smoke and mirrors, bogus testing and hearsay.
What makes this situation even more challenging is the current issue that has evolved with Liliya Shobukhova, a former two-time World Marathon Majors Series winner, who is facing unresolved issues regarding athlete biological passport tests.
Shobukhova was banned, not from a drug test, but because of the stupid biological passport.
Of course people's blood values will fluctuate, which is entirely normal to have happen.
http://www.runnersworld.com/general-interest/liliya-shobukhova-gets-two-year-doping-banShobukhova was banned “for abnormal hematological curves” in her biological passport, which detects fluctuations in blood chemistry over an arc of time.
Does J. R. turn a blind eye?
"Do officials turn a blind eye?"
""Doping'' among world-class competitors is rampant, admit many athletes, and the governing bodies of individual sports, as well as the International Olympic Committee, turn a blind eye. ""The IOC,'' charges epidemiologist Charles Yesalis of Pennsylvania State University, an expert on Olympic doping, ""has known about the drug epidemic in sport for the last 40 years and has covered it up. There is no difference between the bribery scandal and the drug epidemic in the Olympics. They are intertwined.''
"A male athlete with a typical testosterone/epitestosterone ratio of 1.3 to 1 could boost that to 6 to 1, stay within the IOC limit and improve his performance at least 10 percent. Women, with a natural ratio of 2.5 to 1, could do even better, since they have less testosterone to begin with and so are more sensitive to added amounts. Testosterone can give women beards, deep voices and tough skin."
""In some sports, such as cycling, it is not possible to compete if you are not using drugs,'' says Dr. Gabriele Rosa, who advises Kenyan runners. ""The culture of doping is spreading to Nordic skiing and especially runners.''
http://www.sharonlbegley.com/the-real-scandal
So will Nike somehow intervene and get the B sample to come back positive?
J.R. wrote:
Shobukhova was banned, not from a drug test, but because of the stupid biological passport.
Of course people's blood values will fluctuate, which is entirely normal to have happen.
You don't understand how the biological passport works.
Sciatica Road wrote:
So will Nike somehow intervene and get the B sample to come back positive?
edit: "to come back negative". If they even can. Or would even want to.
If true, she would have costed Buzunesh Deba $100,000 ($150,000 for first against the $75,000 for second place, and then $25,000 CR bonus). Ridiculous. Drug cheats should also be charged with theft. Make an example of Jeptoo and ban for life. It's something that USATF can't understand.
To chime in with his bullshit. This girl is not one of his but she is the second high profile Rosa thief to test positive. Renato has no idea what his athletes do , and the other knock knee Jeptoo how coincidental that she pulled out of NYC , was going to race in the UK and oulled out. The net is still large but it is getting smaller with targeted testing and yes Renato this must have been targeted as no blood is done in Africa and epo is usually only done on info from blood , so this was done for other reasons. too long have they known that they were safe to cheat in Kenya , how many stories are there of X runner lives 1 1/2 hours from the nearest town. Most of these people would fail on missed tests but they are allowed to.
Kenya is not as bad as Ethiopia - just look at the number of fat little dwarfs running 2.21, they cheat systematically .
Its time to forget the 10km to school and back, buy a farm for the family, this is FRAUD and is being aided by ITALIANS and other Europeas , but ultimately itis the Africans who are cheating
Will Jeptoo show up in NYC - if she thinks she is innocent then she should be there. If she knows she has been caught she will be the hell out of there. For once the robbery has been rumbled - Chicago stood to lose a lot of money as would would the World M M - i hope they have contributed to the testing costs, but i doubt it.
The article says that the B sample must be tested. This is not true. Once the A sample goes positive, the athlete can request the B-sample or not. There is a window in which to do so. I can't remember for sure, but it is something like 10 days, just to file the request. If the test was in September, then either Jeptoo has forgone the B sample analysis (unlikely) or has filed the request and is in the typical obfuscating phase of pushing its analysis as far back as possible.
This is a post I wrote on another foum about the timeline for appeals and sanctions.
So, the
http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/World_Anti-Doping_Program/WADP-IS-Testing/2012/WADA_IST_2012_EN.pdfInternational Standards for testing is ambiguous, and The code is not specific. I found more specific guidelines from a
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wada-ama.org%2FDocuments%2FWorld_Anti-Doping_Program%2FWADP-IS-Laboratories%2FISL%25202nd%2520Consultation%2FPart%25202%2FISL-Review-2015-2nd-Consult-Part-2-Art-05.pdf&ei=MeqqU7_iBcmhyASgqIHIBQ&usg=AFQjCNFrYuI-Qr0jLo_N3R5xNXgfVfacnQ&sig2=5NFhQb0ZE4lPmZ44HOvLIA&bvm=bv.69620078,d.aWw" document of proposed ammendments and questions from NADOs. UKAD. NADOs can have their own guidelines for notification of athletes USADA has nothing clear on their website except cute yellow and red buttons for info about urine and blood tests blood.
http://www.ukad.org.uk/resources/document-download/uk-anti-doping-rules/UKAD rules were a little more specific.
"Reporting of “A” Sample results should occur within ten (10) working days of receipt of the Sample."
The “B” Sample analysis should occur as soon as possible and should take place no later than seven (7) working days starting the first working day following request of the Testing Authority
, unless ..."
National ADAs have to report adverse results within 20 days of the hearing determining the positive result. (paraphrased from IST)
Heres a timeline for an athlete taking every available day to delay:
Day 1: Sample Collection
(__ days for travel)
Day 2/3?: Receipt of A sample
Day 12: Test results occur
Day __(15)__: Athlete notified of Adverse finding
UKAD says notification is in writing ASAP. 2-3 days for snail mail?.*
Athlete has 10 days from the receipt of charge to request a hearing
Notice of Charge defines a date and time within 7 days of athlete's (anticipated) receipt of charge for B sample analysis.
Athlete responds y/n to request to be present in the B sample analysis.
Day 22: B sample Analysis, athlete/rep amy or may not be present
If B sample confirms A, then a provisional suspension is handed out confidentially to the related parties.
Day 25: Athlete requests hearing:
-expedited hearings occur within 14 days of the provisional suspension
- regular hearings' timeline is unclear, but presumably at least 14 days
Day 39 (at least): expedited (if opted) hearing occurs. regular hearing occurs later
Day 59: latest edge of the window to report results: it sounds like the NADO stays confidential up to this point unless the related parties release info, but could release its own info outside of this window.
So, 59 working days, and probably longer if the athlete really wanted to stretch it out. I'm guessing JTL is in a purgatory between the request for hearing, a (confidential?) provisional suspension, and a confidential appeal. Ullissi fastracked by not asking for a hearing, but probably opted for and waited for B sample analysis.
I believe Rita Jeptoo is coached by Claudio Berardelli, who also coaches fellow Kenyan drug cheat Matthew Kisorio as well as Jemima Sumgong, who tested positive but got off on a technicality.
Who else is in Berardelli's stable?
MTRaceTimer wrote:
If true, she would have costed Buzunesh Deba $100,000 ($150,000 for first against the $75,000 for second place, and then $25,000 CR bonus). Ridiculous.
But what if Buzunesh Deba was also taking PED's? You could have a Lance Armstrong scenario here where most of the top competitors are using PED's and it was still the best athlete who won the competition as the playing field was "even". As well as punishing the athletes, the coaches and managers of these athletes also need to be interrogated and punished as necessary.
HotDiggedyDog wrote:
I believe Rita Jeptoo is coached by Claudio Berardelli, who also coaches fellow Kenyan drug cheat Matthew Kisorio as well as Jemima Sumgong, who tested positive but got off on a technicality.
Who else is in Berardelli's stable?
After a bit of googling, I see that Eunice Sum, Duncan Kibet, James Kwambai, Stanley Biwott, Janeth Jepkosgei, Alfred Kirwa Yego and Nancy Lagat are all in Berardelli's stable.
So right now she's as guilty as Bernard Lagat, which technically isn't guilty. Agree that it is BS when a result leaks before the B sample confirms the result.
tip of the iceberg
This could be three high-profile busts in just one training group. If Berardelli is allowed to continue coaching without being questioned, does this mean that the IAAF really does not want to do anything to combat PED use in distance running?
Pandaheadsfreakmeout wrote:
So right now she's as guilty as Bernard Lagat, which technically isn't guilty. Agree that it is BS when a result leaks before the B sample confirms the result.
Not true. Lagat's B sample was tested, Jeptoo's has not. Right now, Jeptoo has an adverse finding. If no action is taken by her party in the given window, it will be a sanction. Given that the test was a while ago, this may soon be the case if the B sample still has not been tested.
Read the timeline and its documents before making false statements
Not a good day for Kenya.
If this top Kenyan is doping, who else is?
