Adrian Peterson Allegation Worse Than Ray Rice Behavior

Ryan Leaf (although an easy target). Todd Marinovich's larval problems were fairly well covered. There was extensive Riley Cooper talk. Also are you suggesting that there are players out there breaking the law, getting caught and the media is ignoring them? Can you give me examples? It seems like the media would like nothing more right now than to document each and every incident to pile on the NFL. That's what they do. And rightly so. Pro athletes getting in legal trouble and getting a pass, both legally and in public opinion has been a problem for a long time and the accountability that we are just now starting to see is long overdue.

typical letsrun pu$$ie$. maybe your father should have taken a switch to a few more of your disprespectful selves...?

Peterson should be treated MORE harshly than Rice.

We/the state have a vested interest in protecting children because they have no way of protecting themselves and child abuse basically guarantees you are going to be a dysfunctional adult.

A 4 yo cant go to police.

A 4 yo doesnt even know whats happening is wrong.

A 4 yo just internalizes that beating and feels messed up.

My mom use to lose her temper and smack the hell out of my face when we got in arguments from about age 10-16 yo (Im a dude). It didnt actually hurt and there are plenty of times I could have smoked her, but something about another adult hitting you in the face...

It made me rageful and its still something I fight to this day. I've never hit a person before, but I can see why abused kids become violent adults.

Parents dont ever hit your kids.

Yikes Strikes wrote:

I wonder why we never hear about the criminal acts of NFL owners?

Just the players. And usually only the black ones.

I guess these guys who spent their lives accumulating massive wealth are just really nice people who never do anything wrong.

ummmmmm ever heard of Jerry Jones?

Yikes Strikes wrote:

I wonder why we never hear about the criminal acts of NFL owners?

Just the players. And usually only the black ones.

I guess these guys who spent their lives accumulating massive wealth are just really nice people who never do anything wrong.

Would anyone care? Do we watch the games to see the owners?

99 out of 100 fans probably don't even know what their local sports team owner looks like. This is idiot post of the year. That really stands out on board like this.

Yikes Strikes wrote:

I wonder why we never hear about the criminal acts of NFL owners?

Just the players. And usually only the black ones.

I guess these guys who spent their lives accumulating massive wealth are just really nice people who never do anything wrong.

1. Numbers. There are many more players than there are owners.

2. We have. In recent month, Jim Irsay has been arrested for DWI and Jerry Jones has been accused of sexual assault.

He spanked his son with a tree branch. If more parents did this they would stay out of prison because they'll understand what consequences are.

Augusto E. Perez wrote:

Yikes Strikes wrote:

I wonder why we never hear about the criminal acts of NFL owners?

Just the players. And usually only the black ones.

I guess these guys who spent their lives accumulating massive wealth are just really nice people who never do anything wrong.

1. Numbers. There are many more players than there are owners.

2. We have. In recent month, Jim Irsay has been arrested for DWI and Jerry Jones has been accused of sexual assault.

These are the stupid ones. You get others to do your dirty work, and then have them silenced by then others. You keep your hands clean (so to speak). These football people are troglodytes, from owner (most of them) to player. The modern technologies (cell phone, twitter, etc.) will expose these people for who they are - thugs who pose as athletes/entertainers. Yet America worships this sport and its heroes. Sad reflection on America really.

Sbeefyk1 wrote:

He spanked his son with a tree branch. If more parents did this they would stay out of prison because they'll understand what consequences are.

bullsh**t. You can teach consequences in a myriad of ways that don't involve violence. Use you're intelligence.

I come from a middle-class white family. The times my father made me lie prone on the stairway with pants lowered and beat me with a large leather strap and left large painful bleeding welts on my butt---just to send a message after a sibling did something wrong---did nothing but make me feel shame, hatred, fear, and depressed. For years it affected my ability to be open and trusting of anyone. It did nothing to keep my sibling out of trouble with the law later on, and from hitting being a domestic abuser. Or from my siblings becoming alcoholics. I remember good old Daddy slapping me across the face when I was 5, and I made a decision at 5 years old never to give him the satisfaction of seeing me cry again--and he never did. I also stopped initiating conversation with him for the next 30 years. My mother was culpable because she would close the windows when Dad was "disciplining" so the neighbors wouldn't hear. She also spanked my bare butt and slapped me across the face. My older sibling mirrored their behavior and would beat on me and my other siblings when they weren't around. Society didn't call this abuse back then and allowed it. Nowadays, older people romanticize this parenting technique as being the only thing that works in forming a good citizen. That is just lazy, unintelligent thinking.

Parents hitting kids is bullying in its worst form. All it teaches kids is that violence or the threat of it is how you get people to do your bidding. I remember I bullied a classmate one day when I was 10, and beat on him because I thought he was weaker, and more than likely to let out my anger about being beat on by the ones who were supposed to love me. Or just behaving like my parents taught me by example. I felt so much remorse after that. I never started a fight again. My parents beatings didn't teach me to feel that remorse. It came naturally. In fact, all that is good about me I nurtured myself. I was born with it.

If you strike your kids, you're a bully who isn't intelligent enough to see all the other possibilities of how to teach them. "Little Tommy is acting up again. I think I'll inflict physical pain on him. It's the only way." And you do so because you have power and dominance over the kid. And that's ultimately what you teach, by example.

You ask a reasonable question, and I do think that the answer is that you grab her hands and don't let her hit you any more.

As for Peterson, I don't know the details of what he did, other than he hit his child with a switch. 90% or more of children in the U.S. are "spanked" regularly, many frequently under the age of 2, remarkably, when children have very little impulse control and can't really do all that much. But if a 230 lb running back is hitting a 4 year old with a switch, it probably did a lot of damage.

I should add that I am against hitting children under any circumstances. There are many reasons not to do it, including very pronounced long-term negative consequences, on average.

Jim Irsay's dwi has been covered fairly extensively??? There's been virtually no talk about anything other than Ray Rice. How many threads and posts have there been on the former subject here?

Peterson beat the kid with a "switch" with several shots at the scrotum. Peterson hit the kid enough times to claim he got "kinda good wit [sic] the tail end of the switch."

The beating allegedly resulted in numerous injuries to the child, including cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands.

Peterson then texted the boy’s mother, saying that one wound in particular would make her “mad at me about his leg. I got kinda good wit the tail end of the switch.”

http://necolebitchie.com/2014/09/nfl-player-adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse-after-beating-son-with-a-switch/

70% of violent assaults on children were committed by whites, whereas only 40% of violent assaults on adults were committed by whites.

2/3 of violent assaults on children were sexual in nature. The category of child abuse accounts for very few of the overall violent assaults on children, despite the fact that spanking is extremely common, but in that case 89.3% of child abuse cases involved children under 12. The fact that 10x as many black mothers were charged with crimes for taking illegal substances while pregnant than white mothers, despite equal drug use, suggests that here too it might be the case that black child abusers (non-sexual) will be more likely to be charged than white child abusers, but then again there is probably more unquestioned support for spanking or "disciplining" children in the black than white community, and hence, there might well be less notice of it as an issue and so fewer charges raised to authorities. When I referred to spanking as hitting children, my college students here down south objected very strongly to my claim and very much supported spanking, particularly black students but white students as well. My sense is that it is more openly accepted in the black community and hence people are far less guarded in talking about it.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/CVVOATV.PDF

Sbeefyk1 wrote:

He spanked his son with a tree branch. If more parents did this they would stay out of prison because they'll understand what consequences are.

Any "spanking" that involves striking a child's scrotum is pretty fucked up. All available evidence seems to show that sexual abuse doesn't instill discipline.

George Atlas wrote:[/

several things crossed my mind. What are you supposed to do when your wife or girlfriend is attacking you?

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After reading your post, I guess we'll have to give you the benefit of doubt that you have a mind, though I have serious doubts.

What are you supposed to do? Get out, call the police, have them arrested then break off the relationship immediately. End of problem.

You retaliate, you pay the price.

Is that really so hard to figure out?

But I thought these guys were our heroes a few weeks ago, yes?

What he did shouldn't happen but it does on a regular basis. I don't doubt that Peterson was only doing as he was taught as a child. Doesn't necessarily make it right but it was how he handled the situation. He deserves a suspension but being kicked out of the league for spanking a child excessively while trying to do the right thing to discipline the child is stupid. It pales in comparison with a drunken Ray Rice punch thrown in anger at his fiancee. Peterson's actions were based in a belief that he was doing right. Rice's actions were based in anger and an attitude of disrespect.

50 years ago, the switch was normal. 50 years ago, the education system still worked and produced children that respected each other and adults. 50 years ago our prisons weren't packed to the gills with people who didn't know right from wrong. The reaction to corporal punishment has been radical. There has to be a balance. Should parents that do absolutely NOTHING to discipline their child be held accountable much like Peterson who acted in the exact opposite extreme? Of course not.

The pictures show the results of a spanking with a switch. I personally received worse as a child. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary for a spanking with a switch in those pictures. What do you think happens when you spank with a switch? Much like the uproar over the second Ray Rice tape, after seeing the first tape, what do you think a person being knocked out looks like? Don't act surprised.

UseYourImaginationForPetesSake wrote:

If you strike your kids, you're a bully who isn't intelligent enough to see all the other possibilities of how to teach them. "Little Tommy is acting up again. I think I'll inflict physical pain on him. It's the only way." And you do so because you have power and dominance over the kid. And that's ultimately what you teach, by example.

i don't have kids yet, but i would like to use spanking (on the butt) as a form of discipline. i was spanked, and like to think it worked. my wife was not and does not want to discipline our kids that way.

i appreciate your thoughtful and intelligent post for making me really think about whether or not i'll spank my kids when they act up. wish there were more posts like this on letsrun.