ERIC JENKINS TO UNCONN!!!

asdfasdfa wrote:

Who at UCONN has any clue how to coach a guy to run under 13:10? That's the next step for Jenkins. No chance he accomplishes that there.

What college coach has done that with a college kid?

You want John Chaplin (WSU) to come back or what?

Could use some training partners though?

What's so different between coaching someone to sub-14 and sub-13? I mean, it's all the same principles. There's probably D3 coaches who could get him to 13:10 despite never coaching sub-14 runners.

bleeding blue wrote:

asdfasdfa wrote:

Who at UCONN has any clue how to coach a guy to run under 13:10? That's the next step for Jenkins. No chance he accomplishes that there.

What college coach has done that with a college kid?

You want John Chaplin (WSU) to come back or what?

Could use some training partners though?

Yeah, Chaplin "coached" that group he brought in during those years...wink, wink. Please. He's about as much of a coach as any of the other coaches in the import and let em' run business, he just happened to be one of the first and most exploitive. He was a major douche then, and he is an even bigger one now.

There are a number of PHENOMENAL D3 coaches who could coach Jenkins up. Hope wherever he ends up he can build on last year's successes, though going from Northeastern to Syracuse would diminish the underdog angle a bit.

asdfasdfa wrote:

Who at UCONN has any clue how to coach a guy to run under 13:10? That's the next step for Jenkins. No chance he accomplishes that there.

Why does it take special knowledge to coach someone under 13:10. The guy who guided him for this first couple years of college is now coaching him again.

He briefly was 2nd at NCAAs under Vanhoy's guidance for 3 months. Van Hoy was totally raw and he ran 13:15 or something under him. Were you ripping van hoy's hire back in December saying Jenkins was screwed? No, you weren't because his pb was over 14:00.

You either know how coach/train a distance runner or you don't. Then it's up to their talent. I promise you I could easily coach scores of guys to sub 13:10 and no one at Cornell broke 1400 while I was there.

I mean how many sub -4 milers had Jim Ryun's coach coached before he got Ryun. Same thing with Alan Webb and Razcko.

It amazes me that so many people it takes a special type of coach to guide an Olympian. In fact, it's probably the reverse.

rojo,It is very debatable that you could coach scores of guys to sub 13:10. It does take a special type of coach to guide an Olympian. Yes the athlete has to have the talent. But to get the most out of the athlete also takes the right coach for that athlete. Look at Jenny Simpson with and without Wetmore. How about Mo Farah before going to Salazar and after?

This is Jim Ryun's High School Coach....Bob TimmonsInducted: 2011, coachBorn: June 20, 1924 - Joplin, MissouriFew people influenced more athletes than Bob Timmons. When his Hall of Fame career finally came to an end, Timmons had coached seven Olympians, 16 world record holders, 77 NCAA All-Americans and 24 NCAA champions. One of his more famous protégés included Jim Ryun, who he coached at Wichita East High School and at the University of Kansas. Under Timmons’ tutelage, Ryun, in his junior season, became the first high school runner ever to break four-minutes in the mile. Timmons then left for the track and field program at his alma mater of Kansas where his career spanned 22 seasons and included four NCAA championships, 13 Big 8 indoor conference titles, 14 outdoor conference titles and four cross country conference titles. At the high school level, Timmons won 17 state titles in swimming, cross country and track and field. Always expecting the most from his athletes, Timmons is also a member of the University of Kansas Hall of Fame, the Drake Relays Hall of Fame, the Kansas Sports Hall of Fame, the Kansas High School Activities Hall of Fame and the USTFCCCA Hall of Fame.

I've got some news for all of you saying Jenkins will get better with the right coach. He didn't get from 14:00 to 13:18 because of any coaching. He got there because he didn't take running that seriously before, didn't watch his health AT ALL, and didn't train that hard. Under Vanhoy, he got better training than Renny could ever give him, and most NCAA coaches could train him to 13:10 this year. The kid has more talent than people seem to realize and could be even greater than he is.

He certainly has great form. Check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_bziNth_ZM

[quote]Former clipper wrote:

With Ryan Vanhoy officially going to Old Miss...word though the grapevine is that if he stayed at Northeastern it would have been without the services of ERIC JENKINS....[quote]

What the heck are you talking about? If Vanhoy had stayed, Jenkins would have stayed; Jenkins is only transferring because his coach left. You think it's a coincidence he stuck with Northeastern all summer then decided to transfer out of the blue when his coach happened to leave the same week? That's foolish

The heck? wrote:

What the heck are you talking about? If Vanhoy had stayed, Jenkins would have stayed; Jenkins is only transferring because his coach left. You think it's a coincidence he stuck with Northeastern all summer then decided to transfer out of the blue when his coach happened to leave the same week? That's foolish

Calm down, Ryan. No one here is saying you're a bad coach...just an incredibly lucky one who happened to get the chance to work with a once in a lifetime athlete in your first REAL chance at coaching.

Speaking of coincidences: I am sure it was a coindeicende that Renny Waldron (Jenkins REAL coach for 2 years and the one who everyone who knows the situation actually gives all the credit to, the coach who recruited him to Northeastern) finally got another job at a school Jenkins could actually get in to? Waldron got hired at UConn in the first week of July...just in time for Jenkins to apply in the week that followed, get accepted and then last week tell the northeastern coaching staff of his new change of plans. This then caused Vanhoy to apply for any and every d1 job avliable (a well documented fact if you ask around to those with openings) selling how he was the coach of the epic ERIC JENKINS... For 3 months... then takes the first one he could get, landing in the junk show program that is Ole Miss...well play, Ryan. Well played.

Yeah. A real coindecidental alright.

400 runner wrote:

rojo,It is very debatable that you could coach scores of guys to sub 13:10. It does take a special type of coach to guide an Olympian. Yes the athlete has to have the talent. But to get the most out of the athlete also takes the right coach for that athlete. Look at Jenny Simpson with and without Wetmore. How about Mo Farah before going to Salazar and after?

Wasn't Farah already a sub13 guy when he went to Salazar?

Friend of a friend of Jenkins wrote:

I've got some news for all of you saying Jenkins will get better with the right coach. He didn't get from 14:00 to 13:18 because of any coaching. He got there because he didn't take running that seriously before, didn't watch his health AT ALL, and didn't train that hard. Under Vanhoy, he got better training than Renny could ever give him, and most NCAA coaches could train him to 13:10 this year. The kid has more talent than people seem to realize and could be even greater than he is.

QFE

uconn has great coaching. they may not have 13:xx 5k or sub 4 milers year in and year out, but they are consistently good. how many 13.xx or sub 4 milers did northeastern have? eric jenkins put them on the map. uconn is already there. the depth on that team is phenomenal for the northeast. he will have many great training partners and access to far more than he had at northeastern. just look at how far the uconn coach has brought some of his athletes. mike rutt only ran 1:57 in high school!

however, there is an old saying. if it ain't broke, don't fix it. even if uconn may have more resources, whatever was going on at northeastern seemed to be working.

also heard from a VERY reliable source that he was talking to Oregon as well....nothing about jenkins is confirmed just yet

Kenyan Stallion wrote:

also heard from a VERY reliable source that he was talking to Oregon as well....nothing about jenkins is confirmed just yet

Cool. Since he hasn't been released, this would be considered tampering, and a violation. Par for the course.

Former clipper wrote:

With Ryan Vanhoy officially going to Old Miss...word though the grapevine is that if he stayed at Northeastern it would have been without the services of ERIC JENKINS....Since Jenkins just notified the staff that he is transferring to UCONN!

His former coach at Northeastern (the one who actually recruited him) was just hired at UCONN a few weeks ago. Renny Waldron got Jenkins to sub-4 last year, how much faster can he get now with the resources available to the duo at UCONN?!?!?!?

Actually Waldron got Jenkins injured, Jenkins was rocking on his own after hardly training in HS. Vanhoy made him a star. Not sure why he would go to Uconn. Education pales, and if you're doing it for a running career Uconn is not the place. Might as well go to Oregon.

Why did Renny leave NU again?

Jenkins going to UCONN is a mistake.