Well done Cush... Great to see you go at the shorter distances again. Those past 5 yrs of 5k track/road & 10k XC training have set the table for some target practice at John's and my records - that is what they are there for.
Cheers (especially today)
TY
Cush, can you share your story of the 96 Trials in Atlanta?
Sagarin wrote:
Dude, just be thankful you can run at all and get out the door. Cush's assertion was fine to the extent that Lagat has not yet run 3:55 at age 45. And he may never accomplish the feat. He has pushed in his 30s, while Cush didn't fry his legs during that decade of life. Plus, Cush can probably go even faster.
Those two people (Cush and Lagat) are not even close to comparable. Cush has every reason to be happy with his results, but Lagat owns EVERY masters WR in his age group from 1500 to 5000. He owns two American OPEN records set as officially as masters athlete.
Cush > Lagat?
Not now, not ever. These kinds of arrogant claims are why a fair number of young people frankly despise masters athletics. I think a little respect for a guy who has won 7 championship medals for the USA might be in order.
coach d wrote:
Those two people (Cush and Lagat) are not even close to comparable. Cush has every reason to be happy with his results, but Lagat owns EVERY masters WR in his age group from 1500 to 5000. He owns two American OPEN records set as officially as masters athlete.
Cush > Lagat?
Not now, not ever. These kinds of arrogant claims are why a fair number of young people frankly despise masters athletics. I think a little respect for a guy who has won 7 championship medals for the USA might be in order.
only because it's sunday/st.patty's day, and every once in a while i enjoy arguing nonsense (and where better than letsrun?), and once again for the sarcasm challenged:
age 23--i may have gotten him here, but too lazy to check exact math/birth dates/time of year:
cush>lagat
age 24
lagat>cush
age 25
lagat>cush
age 26
lagat>cush
age 27
lagat>cush
age 28
lagat>cush
age 29
lagat>cush
age 30
lagat>cush
age 31
lagat>cush
age 32
lagat>cush
age 33
lagat>cush
age 34
lagat>cush
age 35
lagat>cush
age 36
lagat>cush
age 37
lagat>cush
age 38
lagat>cush
age 39
cush>lagat (until he, or anyone else through a time machine trip to the future, can prove otherwise)
age 40
cush>lagat (until he, or anyone else through a time machine trip to the future, can prove otherwise)
age 41
cush>lagat (until he, or anyone else through a time machine trip to the future, can prove otherwise)
age 42
cush>lagat (until he, or anyone else through a time machine trip to the future, can prove otherwise)
age 43
cush>lagat (until he, or anyone else through a time machine trip to the future, can prove otherwise)
age 43
cush>lagat (until he, or anyone else through a time machine trip to the future, can prove otherwise)
age 44
cush>lagat (until he, or anyone else through a time machine trip to the future, can prove otherwise)
age 45
cush>lagat (until he, or anyone else through a time machine trip to the future, can prove otherwise)
so, will he get my record, or sorenson's, or hatton's, or burns', or shaheed's, or patton's, or rose's, or carter's, or benham's, or funk's, or spangler's, or kirk's? who knows? and, outside the niche audience of masters runners, and a few faithful followers who are somehow motivated and/or inspired by old people exploits, who cares?
so lighten up francis...
Partied in Atlanta wrote:
Cush, can you share your story of the 96 Trials in Atlanta?
you mean my story about how i was the fastest non-qualifier for the finals? sure, i'd be unhappy to.
if i remember correctly, with 200 meters to go in one of the semis, i think i was leading before holman, mcmullen, harris, hyde, vandegrift and dailey went by me.
happily for me, none of them were at the oxy distance carnival two nights ago...
Congrats Cush! You helped me out big time in my first 5k at Ben Brown two weekends ago helping me move from 31st to 3rd (OCC runner). No surprise to me that you got that record.
You're a class act.
coach d wrote:
Not now, not ever. These kinds of arrogant claims are why a fair number of young people frankly despise masters athletics. I think a little respect for a guy who has won 7 championship medals for the USA might be in order.
Cush wrote:
"however, regarding 45 yo 1500 times:
socal cush>>lagat.
that will remain an indisputable fact for about six years, and then, and ONLY then, will he get to toe the line and dispute it. so let me enjoy my little niche achievement, and my celebratory 3 kit-kat bars and a beer."
Why is this even controversial? Arrogant, seriously? Let the guy enjoy his well-deserved accolades.
Mo' Better wrote:
socal cush wrote:however, regarding 45 yo 1500 times:
socal cush>>lagat.
that will remain an indisputable fact for about six years, and then...
Okay, all male runners at least 1-day older than socal cush >> socal cush
An older hobby jogger >> socal cush
An 80-year grandma who walks a mile >> socal cush
Just using your own formula to show you it is flawed. Sorry dude, you lost.
Me thinks Mo is just a tad bit jealous that Socals 3:55 dreamcrushes his 5:53
coach d wrote: (oh wait, nothing he says is worth quoting)
I will say, however, that coach d is consistent.
happily for me, none of them were at the oxy distance carnival two nights ago...
no they weren't...and that's the point. Way to go Cush. I am also proud that I have stayed with the game while so many faster guys gave up and decided to watch football instead.
Christian, you should have been in Jeff Atkinson's semi in the 96 Trials.
His shoving allowed a couple of non-qualifiers to be placed in the finals.
The final was run exactly like your semi except for Holman lacking that kick that he laid down in the semis.
I had a good view from the stands after running tight in round one.
I totally mis-timed my warm-up with running outside of the stadium then that shuttle into the stadium, then hanging out on the room under the stands, followed by being moved to the hall, then moved down the hall further, then being moved onto the track and then finally racing.
I had completely cooled off. The temperature was mid 90's and I didn't have a drop of sweat left on me when the gun went off.
That was my last serious race ever.
Can't beleive you are in college level competive shape right now and are older than me.
kjgtsyfytsyr wrote: Me thinks Mo is just a tad bit jealous that Socals 3:55 dreamcrushes his 5:53
What an odd thread this is. So much man love. Unusual for LRC. Not even Rupp gets this much man love. Of course, Rupp never posts how great he thinks he is. He is a very humble guy. Not overly proud of his accomplishments.
What a bitch move by Atkinson. Not a fan anymore.
toro wrote:
Christian, you should have been in Jeff Atkinson's semi in the 96 Trials.
His shoving allowed a couple of non-qualifiers to be placed in the finals.
he is taking EPO
+1
Dude, you are absolutely not sane. No amount of young people despise masters athletics -- they don't even think about masters athletics. No one does, until they get close to qualifying age wise. What a tool.
coach d wrote:
Sagarin wrote:Dude, just be thankful you can run at all and get out the door. Cush's assertion was fine to the extent that Lagat has not yet run 3:55 at age 45. And he may never accomplish the feat. He has pushed in his 30s, while Cush didn't fry his legs during that decade of life. Plus, Cush can probably go even faster.
Those two people (Cush and Lagat) are not even close to comparable. Cush has every reason to be happy with his results, but Lagat owns EVERY masters WR in his age group from 1500 to 5000. He owns two American OPEN records set as officially as masters athlete.
Cush > Lagat?
Not now, not ever. These kinds of arrogant claims are why a fair number of young people frankly despise masters athletics. I think a little respect for a guy who has won 7 championship medals for the USA might be in order.
socal cush wrote:
Partied in Atlanta wrote:Cush, can you share your story of the 96 Trials in Atlanta?
you mean my story about how i was the fastest non-qualifier for the finals? sure, i'd be unhappy to.
if i remember correctly, with 200 meters to go in one of the semis, i think i was leading before holman, mcmullen, harris, hyde, vandegrift and dailey went by me.
happily for me, none of them were at the oxy distance carnival two nights ago...
Actually, I was referring to the raging party you were at after your last race.
Yeah, and ever loser jogger who ever raced at age 46 and older is better than socal cush, according to socal cush.
like i said, when they start keeping records for hobbyjogging, specifically for 45+5 month+ age groups, i will gladly concede that:45+5 month+ > cushuntil then, at least until barton or sorenson or some other dude breaks it, i own the 45-49 age group record for 1500m (unless it doesn't get ratified, but that's another story).more to the point though for the analogy impaired, is my understanding that all those dudes with 50+ age group records are superior to me until i can prove otherwise--and if you're a masters runner, you know you can take nothing for granted.thanks for bumping my thread, though. only about 600 more posts and i'll match the suzy favor call girl thread...
geronnnnimoe wrote:
Yeah, and ever loser jogger who ever raced at age 46 and older is better than socal cush, according to socal cush.
Suzy Favor call girl thread > So Cal Cush 1500 thread