NCAA Qualifiers: What If...

The chips are in the bibs, not the shoes, which helps. However, times that differ by (less than) 0.10 seconds are supposed to be reviewed on the double video (one on each side). So, it is likely (almost certain?) that this was already been checked. However, if it has not, it is possible that this is a procedural error outside the 30-minute protest. I do not know the rules closely enough and I do not know if they actually checked the video.

looks like george mason would've won the tiebreaker. but that wouldn't help them because va tech pushed in nc state, and i believe you can only use a push once in the region. so it would've blocked duke out.

i don't think washington would've gotten the last spot though (as flotrack said) because it looked like arizona state was pushing washington. you can't push in to the last spot. so i guess missouri or someone would've qualified instead.

26mi235 wrote:

The chips are in the bibs, not the shoes, which helps. However, times that differ by (less than) 0.10 seconds are supposed to be reviewed on the double video (one on each side). So, it is likely (almost certain?) that this was already been checked. However, if it has not, it is possible that this is a procedural error outside the 30-minute protest. I do not know the rules closely enough and I do not know if they actually checked the video.

Wow, pretty crazy to think that 1/100th of a second became a make or break season situation for the Dukies. On the flip side, 1/100th of a second cost Washington or Missouri a trip to Nationals. Not to mention the Coaches' bonuses...a couple G's on the line I'm sure!

26mi235 wrote:

The chips are in the bibs, not the shoes, which helps. However, times that differ by (less than) 0.10 seconds are supposed to be reviewed on the double video (one on each side). So, it is likely (almost certain?) that this was already been checked. However, if it has not, it is possible that this is a procedural error outside the 30-minute protest. I do not know the rules closely enough and I do not know if they actually checked the video.

Having the chips in the bibs does not make it any better. The chip doesn't read the instant that it crosses the reader. It reads sometime when it gets close to the reader. Just because the chip is in the bib does not mean the torso is being timed. I believe that chips in the shoes is the better method while still using the finish lynx to review the finishes.

Correct. Chips in the bibs may actually be less accurate because they are farther fom the antennas/readers.

Coopington wrote:

Correct. Chips in the bibs may actually be less accurate because they are farther fom the antennas/readers.

This is correct...which is why they review the close finishes on the video at the end. I don't understand how any of this is an issue?

It is irrelevant to have the chips in the shoes because, unlike high school, college (and everywhere else) it is the first with the torso over the line that matters, and if you had it on the shoe you can easily have it outside of the review window of 0.10 seconds and get the answer wrong. (Besides, shoes come off, running tops do not...)

I heard Metcalf has filed an Official Protest to the NCAA to investigate the finish. I guess he doesn't want any doubts in his mind!

Huskies Hunters wrote:

I heard Metcalf has filed an Official Protest to the NCAA to investigate the finish. I guess he doesn't want any doubts in his mind!

This confirmed? Anything come of it?

26mi235 wrote:

It is irrelevant to have the chips in the shoes because, unlike high school, college (and everywhere else) it is the first with the torso over the line that matters, and if you had it on the shoe you can easily have it outside of the review window of 0.10 seconds and get the answer wrong. (Besides, shoes come off, running tops do not...)

Often times the chips are worn around the ankle, not in the shoe. Chip timing has made getting inacurate scores much quicker...