Does Bill Aris get an unfair advantage because of his connection to Nike?! His HS athletes should not be allowed to run on NCAA level because they could be getting improper benefits like professional level training partners... just sayin'.. keep the playing field level.
Yes, because the last thing we would want is for kids to have every advantage available to them to bet better. I want absolute equality across the board and the only way for all to be equal is to reduce all to zero. So let's get the movement started!
The FM guy wrote:
Does Bill Aris get an unfair advantage because of his connection to Nike?! His HS athletes should not be allowed to run on NCAA level because they could be getting improper benefits like professional level training partners... just sayin'.. keep the playing field level.
It's okay California, eventually you'll be able to beat FM, just not for awhile.
To FM guy: In receiving gear such as singlets and backpacks, how does one get faster? It would appear to be a good business move to adorn the best program in your product. Would the shoes be bought anyway? Probably. These kids could run in t-shirts and chuck taylor's and they'd still win. So Nike or no Nike, winning is done still with sweat, tears, and commitment. You also appear to be out of touch with high school, collegiate, and pro athletics as it pertains to regulations, rules, and modern day recruiting. Most major colleges are sponsored by and adorned with shoe company gear. Many require the athletes to wear that gear regardless of whether you like it or not. If you also look around the country and the state of high football, winning programs have synthetic fields purchased with Coca Cola or Pepsi moneys, scoreboards with advertisements, and kids who want to wear great uniforms. Some have decided to pursue excellence, some are satisfied to be also rans and play in the sandlots and cow pastures of America. To each their own. Could have gone on and on with examples of teams receiving gear. FM is not alone.
Unfair advantage? Professional level training partners? What proof do you have of this? Are you saying that the coaches train their post collegians with their high schoolers? There are high school bylaws that prevent this from ever being an issue without penalty. The teams practice separately, and at different times, and are of no benefit to one another in a training environment anyway. CA, jealous much?
Who cares who FM is training with. How is that an advantage at all? FM Guy, if you want to be better, find a training partner.
They should be banned because they "could be" receiving improper benefits? Brilliant.
But I also think that you and your team could be receiving improper benefits as well, so we will have to play it safe and ban you also.
The FM guy wrote:
Does Bill Aris get an unfair advantage because of his connection to Nike?! His HS athletes should not be allowed to run on NCAA level because they could be getting improper benefits like professional level training partners... just sayin'.. keep the playing field level.
Read Harrison Bergeron.
Also, if you want the playing field to be level, then rise to their level.
First off, this is HS girls cross country. Outside of parents and coaches no one gives a crap.
Secondly this person is not from CA. It is well known that numerous basketball coaches in the Southern Section receive 6 figure contracts from sponsors. (sponsor the coach not the team). So how could they cry foul.
Thirdly, this is HS girls cross country. Outside of parents and coaches no one gives a crap.
The Animal Within wrote:
First off, this is HS girls cross country. Outside of parents and coaches no one gives a crap.
Secondly this person is not from CA. It is well known that numerous basketball coaches in the Southern Section receive 6 figure contracts from sponsors. (sponsor the coach not the team). So how could they cry foul.
Thirdly, this is HS girls cross country. Outside of parents and coaches no one gives a crap.
Ha, well played! It's mid-August, just about time for the FM threads to invade the boards for the rest of the calendar year.
Outside of parents and coaches no one gives a crap about girls' high school cross country? Add in the athletes themselves, please. Maybe siblings and friends. Some school administrators. Perhaps some teachers. Former runners at the school who still follow the sport. A few boyfriends. I've known a sports columnist or two who are into the sport. College coaches? Definitely. Nerds on Letsrun - possible, at least a few. Often times, in small towns, there is even a local pride that sparks a small amount of interest.
So, cross country running is a little like poetry - it has no appeal to the masses, but for a small number of people, it is a big deal.
The Animal Within -
You're one to talk! You're always arguing about HS girls cross country on these boards. Hypocrite ...
The Animal Within wrote:
It is well known that numerous basketball coaches in the Southern Section receive 6 figure contracts from sponsors. (sponsor the coach not the team).
Exactly, we would have to elimate middle school, high school, and college basketall if FM is crossing the line.
Aris is a good coach and he raises the bar and challenges all coaches to improve.
Everyone thinks its magic, not recognizing that this guy does the WORK. It's just time and care and knowing his kids. Has nothing to do with swag.
Times are tough and money is tight--CC coaches get money where they can. I tap into local college contracts and do all kinds of shit. Bitching about some other school suggests laziness.
I'm not a fan or grad. In fact, when I first met Bill at a clinic I though he was a dick, but he's got a good mind and our team has benefited from our conversations.