RE: Did Israel assasssinate Arafat with Polonium? looks like it!

it's only going to get worst...they own it all!

"But he stressed that clinical symptoms described in Arafat's medical reports were not consistent with polonium-210 and that conclusions could not be drawn as to whether the Palestinian leader was poisoned or not."

It's a shame that amid all of this fighting between Israeli Jews and Palestinean Muslims, that Arab Christians, and Christians more generally, are the most discriminated against in the region and fleeing in droves. But one rarely ever hears about that.

Jew Bob Simon of 60 Minutes reported on the original Christians (yes the Palestianians are the creators of our faith) recently.

and that would have been a big deal why? the US killed bin laden, no?

RuKiddingme!! wrote:

it's only going to get worst...they own it all!

There is some evidence that there was Polonium in some of Arafat's stuff.

This does not mean Israel assinated Arafat.

The Israelis knew where he was holed up. If they wanted to they could have easily killed him.

I am not buying this conspiracy story until there is some evidence Israel was involved. There have been past conspiracies that Israel infected/injected Arafat with HIV so he would die of AIDS.

The Palestinians have come up with all sorts of conspiracies over the years. They soon become part of the Palestinian narative regardless if they are true or not. I am sure many will now accept it as fact that Israel assinated Arafat just like many in the Arab world believe Israel was responsible for 911.

This doesn't mean a Palestinian state shouldn't be created on most of the West Bank and Gaza once they form a unified govt whose goal is peaceful co-existence with Israel.

If Arafat accepted Clinton's Parameters a lot of lives would have been saved. He couldn't change. He couldn't make the transition from being a terrorits to becoming a statesman.

From Clinton's book on Arafat and the peace process at the end of Dec 2000:

"Right before I left office, Arafat, in one of our last conversations, thanked me for all my efforts and told me what a great man I was. “Mr. Chairman,” I replied, “I am not a great man. I am a failure, and you have made me one.” I warned Arafat that he was single-handedly electing Sharon and that he would reap the whirlwind.

In February 2001, Ariel Sharon would be elected prime minister in a landslide. The Israelis had decided that if Arafat wouldn’t take my offer he wouldn’t take anything, and that if they had no partner for peace, it was better to be led by the most aggressive, intransigent leader available. Sharon would take a hard line toward Arafat and would be supported in doing so by Ehud Barak and the United States.

Nearly a year after I left office, Arafat said he was ready to negotiate on the basis of the parameters I had presented. Apparently, Arafat had thought the time to decide, five minutes to midnight, had finally come. His watch had been broken a long time.

Arafat’s rejection of my proposal after Barak accepted it was an error of historic proportions.

Arafat's widow should give back some of the millions that Arafat stole from the Palestinian people.

So what ? Arafat is only one man. The long term goal is to recover the land of Palestine from the United States on behalf all people and all religions. Palestine is named in the Holy Bible. Palestine is drawn and labelled on maps from Ancient Persia, the 1st worldwide empire. If it takes 1,000 years, humanity will fight for freedom, democracy, and human rights for all of Palestine.

I am not following you.

If you are arguing for a one state utopia, dream on. There are two groups of people who both want rights of self-determination for their people. Neither want the other to govern them. If you want a one state solution now, you should recognize the economic disparirty between the two groups of people. Israelis will buy a lot of the land in Area A and Area B and develop the land. No one can argue that these settlements are illegal.

There will be unrest and a civil war as the Palestinians will not like to be governed by the more wealthy Israelis and the settlement problem will be much harder issue to deal with than it is today.

And don't start with the bs history that Jews lived in harmony in the Arab world before Israel existed. While Jews were treated better in the Arab world than the Christian Eurpopean world as a general rule and at certain times Jews did well for themselves under Muslim rule at other times they were treated as second class citizens in the Muslim world and could be persecuted whenever a new ruler came to power. They had no security as a minority in a Muslim area. It simply isn't true they lived in peace and hamrony and were treated as equals in the Muslim world.

Its not like Arafat was a good person.

Arafat was a thug and an infidel. The Palestinians are better off without him.

Why so glum and apathetic ? Have faith in God

Don't know what faith in God has to do with it.

I live in the real world were it is best to be pragmatic.

The realistic solution may not be seen as completely just to either side. But a solution that leads to peace and less death is a solution I would prefer to one one that is unrealistic that would lead to more violence and death.

umm.... wrote:

and that would have been a big deal why? the US killed bin laden, no?

See no evil doesn't apply to foreigners.

And there will be rainbows with pots of gold and unicorns will appear that poop out the best hummus you will ever taste.

Two people for two states is the realistic solution.

If you are going to put out crazy conspiracy theories at least do one that makes sense. Israel assassinated Arafat? That is like accusing Nazis of assassinating Neville Chamberlain.

mass murderers wrote:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-07-03/news/sns-rt-us-palestinians-arafatbre8621cl-20120703_1_polonium-suha-palestinian-leader

ZURICH (Reuters) - Traces of the poisonous element polonium have been found in the belongings of late Palestinian President Yasser Arafat, a Swiss institute said on Wednesday, and a television report said his widow had demanded his body be exhumed for further tests.

Arafat died at a hospital in France in 2004, after a sudden illness which baffled doctors. Many Palestinians have long suspected he was poisoned.

Israel = world's biggest terrorists.

No Justice means No Peace

It was the assassination of the Israeli prime minister that ended the peace accords and led to the decades of this continuing. Since then Israeli hardliners have made things worse every year by pushing housing settlements and rejecting peace settlements.