What college has the most 3:40-3:45 1500 runners?

So we're ignoring the colleges with sub 3:40 guys?

Tigershark wrote:

So we're ignoring the colleges with sub 3:40 guys?

Not necessarily. I just think a large number of 3:40-3:45 guys is more indicative of a solid training program and a good opportunity for lots of training partners.

That Kyle Merber interview on Runnerspace (he said 3 guys finished behind him in 3:42, 3:43, and 3:43) just got me thinking about what program has a lot of 3:40-3:45 guys because having nobodies down to mid-low 3:40s shows a good coach with a strong group.

Wisconsin has

Mudd

Finnerty

Connor

Hatz

And recently graduated

Miller (3:37)

Bolas (3:37)

Rucks (3:39, just this week)

you'd want to look at results w/ walk-on athletes only... athletes who drop 15-20 sec/1500m in a season or two.

a good college coach should get respectably talented walk-on athletes to 3:40 - 3:45 and that would happen in 1-2 seasons.

Oklahoma:

Men 1500 Meter Run

3:41.80 Masters, Riley Stanford Invitational 2012-04-06

3:42.15 Harasyn, Eric Stanford Invitational 2012-04-06

3:43.17 Casey, Patrick Stanford Invitational 2012-04-06

3:43.32 Alex, George Arkansas Twilight 2012-05-04

3:43.95 Legesse, Frezer Stanford Invitational 2012-04-06

3:44.13 Kogel, Bill Arkansas Twilight 2012-05-04

3:46.45 Schwab, Kevin Arizona State Invitational 2012-03-23

Oklahoma State:

Men 1500 Meter Run

3:43.70 Fernandez, German Big 12 Outdoor Championships 2012-05-11

3:43.73 Botezan, Raul Stanford Invitational 2012-04-06

3:43.99 Erassa, Kirubel Big 12 Outdoor Championships 2012-05-11

3:44.31 Moskowitz, Shane Payton Jordan Cardinal Invitational 2012-04-29

3:46.33 Clarkson, Fabian John McDonnell Invite 2012-04-21

Virginia (Growing program)

Men 1500 Meter Run

3:41.51 Todd, Patrick Virginia Challenge 2012-05-12

3:44.59 Johnson, Brett Virginia Challenge 2012-05-12

3:45.34 Kostelac, Anthony Virginia Swashbuckle 2012-03-24

3:45.35 Gilland, Taylor Virginia Swashbuckle 2012-03-24

3:46.00 King, Kyle Virginia Challenge 2012-05-12

3:46.80 Keveren, Sean Virginia Challenge 2012-05-12

Oregon:

Men 1500 Meter Run

3:43.13 Dunbar, Trevor Oregon Relays 2012-04-20

3:45.84 Greer, Elijah Pepsi Team Invitational 2012-04-07

3:45.89 Noelle, Chad Pac-12 Championships 2012-05-12

3:45.94 Stanford, Travis Pac-12 Championships 2012-05-12

3:46.44 Alexander, Colby Oregon Twilight 2012-05-05

PENN STATE (I think their mid distance group is going to be one of the best programs ever over the next 10 years!)

Men 800 Meter Run

1:46.12 Loxsom, Casimir Big Ten Outdoor Championships 2012-05-11

1:48.97 Dawson, Owen LSU Invitational 2012-04-07

1:49.92 Creese, Robby LSU Invitational 2012-04-07

1:50.30 Brennan, Ryan War Eagle Invitational 2012-04-20

COLUMBIA: (Mid distance guys dream to go to a fast and smart school)

3:36.41 Brennand, Nate Mt. SAC Relays 2012-04-19

3:42.49 Merber, Kyle Stanford Invitational 2012-04-06

3:43.80 Everett, Daniel George Mason Spring Invitational 2012-04-14

3:44.26 Gregorek, Johnny George Mason Spring Invitational 2012-04-14

3:44.74 Behnke, Adam George Mason Spring Invitational 2012-04-14

3:45.01 Feigen, Mark George Mason Spring Invitational 2012-04-14

3:45.94 Jones, Byron New Balance Boston Twilight Series # 1 2012-05-12

Villanova

Rob Denault

Mathew Mildenhall

Sam McEntee

Ryan Sheridan

Coming in next year:

Josh Lampron

Not to mention a head coach who has run under 4:00 over 100 times and went to four Olympics. Plus the top assistant is a 3:54 miler.

Great runnerspace interview with kyle merber

3:36.41 Brennand, Nate Mt. SAC Relays 2012-04-19

Excellent work.

I believe Brian Tetrault Pr'ed at 3:44.x last year or 3:45 for Nova as well

Well Princeton has two with Mile conversions around 3:40 (Cabral, Callahan.) Williams at 3:44.97. I guess that's three since for some reason you're not counting the two sub 3:40s.

Virginia Tech may have the most depth at 1500.

Hammond, Michael JR-3 3:39.22 Payton Jordan Cardinal Invitational

Walizer, Chris SR-4 3:42.61 Payton Jordan Cardinal Invitational

Pollock, Grant SO-2 3:44.79 2012 Colonial Relays

Dowd, Kevin SO-2 3:45.79 Wolfpack Last Chance (College)

Mulherin, William JR-3 3:47.36 2012 Colonial Relays

Hagen, Ryan JR-3 3:47.42 Wolfpack Last Chance (College)

Burleigh, Brayden FR-1 3:50.94 Radford Highlander Invitational

Degfae, Tihut JR-3 3:51.65 Raleigh Relays

Carter, George FR-1 3:52.62 VA Tech-Roanoke College Twilight

Kuhns, Ryan FR-1 3:52.69 Raleigh Relays

Curtin, Thomas FR-1 3:52.98 VA Tech-Roanoke College Twilight

Lee, Kieran SR-4 3:54.81 Raleigh Relays 0

Judge, Eddie SR-4 3:56.97 ACC Outdoor Track & Field Championships

THIS LIST HAS TO BE THE WINNER!!

Oregons depth at 1500 is sick. Best I've seen.

All these guys are presently on the roster.

Mac Fleet 3:57.70 full mile

Trevor Dunbar 3:43.13

Richard Goodman (RS) 3:45.66

Brian Schrader 4:03.14 full mile

Boru Guyota 4:03.19 full mile

Elijah Greer 3:45.84

Travis Stanford 3:45.94

Chad Noelle 3:45.89

Colby Alexander 3:46.44

Daniel Winn 4:05.118 full mile

Jeremy Elkaim (RS) 4:05.33 full mile

Cole Watson 3:48.25

Luke Puskedra 4:06.60 full mile

Chris Kwiatkowski 3:49.49

Ben DeJarnette 4:06.96 full mile

Chris Brewer (RS) 3:50.15

Ryan Pickering (RS) 3:52.86

Matt Jablonski (RS) 4:10.37 full mile

Tim Costin 3:53.17

Matt Melancon (RS) 3:54.12

Mitch Hunt 3:54.16

That is 21 current guys at 3:54 or under or the equivalent of sub 4:10 for a 1600.

ALSO....Stinson (13:39 5k), Burgess (14:22 5k), Thompson (1:47 800), Hornsby (1:49 800), Ovett (1:51 800) could undoubtedly break 4:10 but never run mile/1500.

That makes 26 total sub 4:10 on current roster!

Another vote for VTech in Blacksburg VA!

Little Willy wrote:

Mac Fleet 3:57.70 full mile

Brian Schrader 4:03.14 full mile

Boru Guyota 4:03.19 full mile

Daniel Winn 4:05.118 full mile

Jeremy Elkaim (RS) 4:05.33 full mile

Luke Puskedra 4:06.60 full mile

Ben DeJarnette 4:06.96 full mile

Matt Jablonski (RS) 4:10.37 full mile

wait did they run the, "mile" or the, "full mile"?

Like that movement, "Bring Back the Full Mile"

The best college for the 1500 right now is Princeton, followed closely by Columbia/Oklahoma.

Princeton has:

Stillin - 3:38

Van Ackeren - 3:39

Callahan - 3:58 Full Mile indoors

Cabral - 3:43 this season and crushed a lot of the country's best miler on the anchor of the DMR at Penn.

Then they have another guy at 3:44.

Columbia has:

3:35 - Merber

3:42 - Everett

3:43 - Feigen

3:43 - Behnke

3:44 - Gregorek

3:45 - Jones

Silly depth in the ivy league these days.

You lose all credibility with the use of "full mile."

Wisconsin has probably the deepest mid distance squad

Mudd

Finnerty

Darling

Connor

Collins

Mo Ahmed

Hatz

Mellon

Chenowith

Oregon easy best team best facilities heyward field anoef said

Stanford isn't doing poorly in the 1500/Mile dept

Ferris 3:58

Derrick 3:59

Atchoo 3:59

Berberick 4:00

Unterreiner 4:03

Bertolotti 4:06

Heath 3:40

Stutzman 3:40

Rosa 3:47

Rosa 3:47

Valdes 3:47

Krotzer 3:48

Gregg 3:49