U-Maryland may lose XC and Track

If XC and track teams don't want to be cut then maybe they should generate some f*cking revenue.

If the football team doesnt want to be cut then maybe they should generate some f*cking revenue

Track and CC teams can make money, provided they host meets. Charge entry fees at the meets and they will make money.

I heard that the men's team is not fully funded. i.e. they do not offer the full 12.6 scholarships.

How many scholarships does the men's team have/offer?

U of M CP is one of the most disappointing institutions in the country.

There is no reason given its location that it should not be at the the academic, athletic and prestige levels of a University of Michigan.

But it is a far cry from it. The school suffered for decades because the politicians preferred to spread the wealth to that urban hell hole known as Baltimore rather than take the obvious opportunity to build a world class university 12 miles from Capitol Hill. (Long time faculty agree with this point). Yes, I understand Maryland has some very good programs, but by and large their record is one of wasted opportunities. The 660 million endowment - a fraction of what it should be - speaks volumes. (Michigan is about 6.5B; UVA, 4.5B, UNC-CH - 2B, for comparisons).

Another depressing factor is its location. The environs surrounding the school have turned into a barrio, and PG County has both high crime and miserable schools - the latter blowing away every correlation between income and school achievement because the federal government's largesse actually provides for a decent per capita income in PG County. Hardly a great place for a culture of education to flourish.

In sum, it is a place that the best and brightest in the state stay away from, and do not support. It empties out on the weekends and has the feel of a commuter school. And of course this is going to have an impact on its athletic programs - it ain't UVa, that's for sure. When I competed in the ACC, Maryland had won 25 straight track titles. Those days are long gone.

This all sound harsh? Maybe. But this has long been a place with much promise, and much of that had gone wasted.

Freelove wrote:

It's sad to see sports go, but how does something like this happen?

According to the financial report that Maryland filed to the NCAA for fiscal year 2009-10, women’s swimming recorded the largest net loss ($973,706) among varsity sports; men’s swimming lost $620,889.

A million dollars loss seems pretty high to me.

In all fairness to swimming, there is some questionable accounting involved. Evidently, 600K of the "loss" for each sport, is that the school "charges" each sport 600k to "rent" the campus pool.

How about the fact that the U of D football team was offering a $5,000 cash giveaway during one of the games this season to try to bring people in? Funny how the $13,000 XC budget seemed like such a strain on the athletic budget, yet they can do this.

Yah, I think the fate at UMD is more a reflection of how poorly managed the whole state is, fiscally. spend, spend, spend....then, OOPS! furloughs, furloughs, and still they can't make ends meet. Sad.

And the football teams new uniforms were free from the UA guys, based in B-more.

Oh, please. College Park isn't a perfect university, and it's not UMich, but it's a far call from a failure. Has many top notch programs across the disciplines: well reputed in fields as wide as engineering and physics to history and sociology. There are many research institutes underneath it doing quiet, high quality work as well.

The nearby neighborhoods are Barrios? Are you serious? Because there are Latinos? Get out of town.

And seriously, what does the quality of nearby neighborhoods have to do with the quality of the university. University of Chicago, UCLA, UPenn -- you all really also need to get your act together then.

This cannot be happening. One of my best friends, Mamadou Niang, transfered to Maryland this season after being affected by the cut here at Seton Hall. I just spoke with him and he said there was a meeting yesterday and only water polo (there is only a women's team) and swimming and diving (both men's and women's) were being cut right now. He did mention that about 4 other sports were on the block and they'd have to balance Title IX but said track should be fine and everything should be cleared up in the next week.

Maryland will never get rid of Lacrosse. Maryland (the state) is the Lacrosse capital of the US. Wrestling has won the ACC title a two or three times in the last five years so that won't happen.

Is PG County a high class county? No. Is it the ghetto? Not even close. There are bad parts of PG county like most other places.

As far as academics go, all I need to say is we are one of the top public universities in the country. True, we aren't Michigan or UVA, but not many people are.

Maryland athletics was in a nose dive ever since the Len Bias and Bob Wade incidences in the mid to late eighties. Some sports had to take the hit to help out the revenue sports, and

XC and Track was one of them. Men's distance has about 2-4 full rides. When I went there ( in the not so distant past), we had two XC national qualifiers, and six guys under 4:10 (which for Maryland is not too shabby). Out of those 7 guys (one of them falling under both categories), one was on a full ride, two got book money, and the rest were walk ons. If Maryland invested their money by spreading it around a bit more rather than putting all their eggs into one basket, they could easily not finish in the bottom third of the ACC every year.

This might have something to do with their financial woes.

You have to click on the link to see the pictures. Embarrassing stuff

deceiving wrote:

In all fairness to swimming, there is some questionable accounting involved. Evidently, 600K of the "loss" for each sport, is that the school "charges" each sport 600k to "rent" the campus pool.

Really? That's interesting. Who wants to bet the Football team isn't charged for "renting" their field?

I hope the whole damn U of Maryland athletic dept. goes under. XC has got to be one of the least expensive sports to maintain. God, these people must be running our country; that would explain the debt. Maybe all D-1 schools just need to drop everything but their professional football and Bball teams, and just leave xc to the d-2s and d-3s where its probably more appreciated anyway.

Delaware does not have 60 men's lacrosse scholarships. The NCAA limits men's lacrosse to 12.6 fully funded scholarships. Maryland has the same maximum limit. Lacrosse is a very well attended sport at College Park with a deeper history and institutional importance than T&F or XC. Many more students, alumni, and Maryland citizens care about Terp lacrosse than the T&F/XC teams.

The answer for public institutions is to look at Cal Baseball and get the alumni involved.

http://www.uslacrosse.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=qDm4y0-529M%3D&tabid=2677

But don't they have the Olympic Coach as their head coach? Shouldn't his stellar rep, amazing coaching ability, and superb management skills be able to keep the team viable in the face of cuts???!!!

(Laughing uncontrollably behind my keyboard just typing this crap...).

Perhaps the solution for Maryland would be something like: (1) take away one scholorship from each sport, and then two from sports that have more than 30 scholaships. (2) An across the board cut of 10% from each coaches salary.

That should take care of the deficit, rather than dropping sports programs.

Perhaps the solution for Maryland would be something like: (1) take away one scholorship from each sport, and then two from sports that have more than 30 scholaships. (2) An across the board cut of 10% from each coaches salary.

That should take care of the deficit, rather than dropping sports programs.

And if the revenue and the expenses are supposed to equal out where are the people who are supposed to be watching this? How much $$$ does the AD make? If he can not balance the budget (without cuts) then his salary should be reduced.

I'll be the AD makes over 1 mil, as does the B-ball coach and the F-ball coach. So just dropping three salaries 10% (100,000) that reduces the deficit by 14%. I am sure there are others in the Ath. Dept. that make more then they are worth.

Auction off some of those new ugly football uni's.How much did they cost? Were they needed? Unless they were free they cost too much. Do not replace any uni's on any team for four years.

I am sure those who can get their hands on an Athletic Dept. budget and prevoius years expenses could very easily figure places to reduce 4.1 mil and not drop any teams!!!! Don't they have an accounting program on campus?