SOLINKSKY NEEDS TO SHUT HIS MOUTH

Dude, not World Championships. But yea still agree.

What, honestly, would have been the point of finishing that race?

Yes, this was not a catastrophe. He lost maybe 2 seconds. He was fully upright and barely off the track. You jump back in and run, run, run. The place time doesn't matter. The finish time doesn't matter. Finish the race, that is what matters.

he should have run that last 800m out of hate

Yanqui wrote:

What, honestly, would have been the point of finishing that race?

Oh I don't know WINNING it? If you're going to give up because things aren't ideal for you, why even f-ing compete at all? U.S. runners are the biggest pussies I swear.

Agree. He should have gotten up, finished the race, then put a beating on whomever wronged him in the race.

shdfjksfhs wrote:

I used to the love the guy. He talks and talks about toughness, work ethic etc, too much to pull that crap today. No excuse for giving up in that race.

If some shmoe from Kokomo can fall and get up and finish dead last in the slow heat of his high school conference championships then Solinksy should be able to find the energy to Finish the f-ing WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! He lost maybe 15 meters, drops out and makes a huge scene so that everyone knows how badly he was abused.

This wasn't the world championships.

I didn't watch the race, but when I viewed the results and saw that two Americans were DNFs I was like, "Yep. That sounds about right."

Um. It makes more sense for someone to fall in high school and finish the race than for a professional athlete to.

What would he have gotten for finishing that race? A mediocre time, and a mediocre place. If that is the case, then why not rest up for the next meet, or call it quits to get a solid effort in the next day?

These guys are running sub-13 minute 5k races. Think about that. It takes a major toll on your body over time. If it's not going to be a good performance, and there is no repercussion for DNF'ing, then why not drop out?

A DNF is never good, but there are times when it is SMART. The moment that Solinsky was pushed off of the track and ran into that plant, he did the SMART thing.

lost very little time wrote:

Yes, this was not a catastrophe. He lost maybe 2 seconds. He was fully upright and barely off the track. You jump back in and run, run, run. The place time doesn't matter. The finish time doesn't matter. Finish the race, that is what matters.

This is basically another one of those piece of crap "it doesn't matter what place you come in as long as you try your best!" sayings.

Yes, that might work for a grade-school or high-school runner so that he or she can get praise from all the watching parents for "finishing" in the face of "adverse hardships", but it doesn't work that way for a professional.

If he loses his momentum and has a 0% chance of winning, there really ISN'T a point to finishing the race.

I don't think he need to shut his mouth. But he needs to move on. He's now at a stage where he can mix it with the lead pack. We get it. Now he needs to focus on running in the lead pack, not just being with the lead pack.

Seeing that replay I saw a lack of focus from him. Yeah, Merga may have been an a-hole for cutting him off but Solinsky had enough control to stay on the track if he wanted to. He was kind of acting like Acosta.

I'm afraid Solinsky won't be able to run like he did last summer. When you make a huge jump, it's new and exciting. But this year that's old news, and now there's pressure to keep it up or get better.

Looks like he wasn't foced off but chose to? Blew a chance to run under 13 min. With how much he trains and how little he races, these chances don't come very often...

Well there is no "next meet" until Daegu (I believe). Will running a few more laps really tire the man so much? No, a DNF in this race was not smart at all, I don't think.

Seyta wrote:

If he loses his momentum and has a 0% chance of winning, there really ISN'T a point to finishing the race.

This is nothing more than encouraging a complete lack of determination. No one made him stop, and no one cost him more than a second or two. If it was that easy to get him to quit, then he was out of the race before anyone ever touched him.

he stopped because he gave up, which is not a good sign going into WCs.

THIS is the correct answer.

Seyta wrote:

lost very little time wrote:

Yes, this was not a catastrophe. He lost maybe 2 seconds. He was fully upright and barely off the track. You jump back in and run, run, run. The place time doesn't matter. The finish time doesn't matter. Finish the race, that is what matters.

This is basically another one of those piece of crap "it doesn't matter what place you come in as long as you try your best!" sayings.

Yes, that might work for a grade-school or high-school runner so that he or she can get praise from all the watching parents for "finishing" in the face of "adverse hardships", but it doesn't work that way for a professional.

If he loses his momentum and has a 0% chance of winning, there really ISN'T a point to finishing the race.

I'll just say this- when you get in the habit of dropping out of races (see: Stanford, even if it wasn't about Rupp and was for the hip), this mentality doesn't just go away instantly. You get the sort of attitude that there's no real big consequence to DNFing, so you lose some fans along the way, but the world doesn't end. In the next race, you get a bad draw, get pushed around a little, etc...you remember the last time you dropped out and there wasn't any significant fall-out, so why not call it quits again? And by golly, that's exactly what he did.

Seyta wrote: If he loses his momentum and has a 0% chance of winning, there really ISN'T a point to finishing the race.

RRRR wrote:

THIS is the correct answer.

Seyta wrote:

This is basically another one of those piece of crap "it doesn't matter what place you come in as long as you try your best!" sayings.

Yes, that might work for a grade-school or high-school runner so that he or she can get praise from all the watching parents for "finishing" in the face of "adverse hardships", but it doesn't work that way for a professional.

If he loses his momentum and has a 0% chance of winning, there really ISN'T a point to finishing the race.

This is NOT the correct answer....go ahead and take your 0% chance of winning after a 2 second falter nonsense and bring it up with Lasse Viren, his gold medal, and world record.....

The "point to finishing the race" is to reserve some dignity, at least attempt to go after the win, and not get used to dropping out of races which he apparently scorns, but is becoming quite used to. 2 more hard laps isn't going to permanently injure a professional runner. If there's no point to finishing a race, there's no point to be running around in circles in the first place.