Salazar Says Mo Farah Has Increased His Training Pace By A Minute Per Mile

TLW wrote:

Wejo ran 8 minute pace at 7500+ feet, was ~75 seconds slower than these athletes over 10k, and was running at a significantly higher volume (120-140 per week) than Galen and Mo.

Which should tell you all you need to know about the JK mileage bullshit spread around here. Bob Kennedy with MacDonald was doing 95-105 mi/wk peak at around 5:40 pace. And we all know about Lagat running even faster on significantly lower mileage at significantly faster pace.

yeah right wrote:

Only buy it with name and links to results, otherwise

BS

TLW wrote:

'Probably a 30:00 10k guy in my prime' is exactly what it says.

For example, I ran 4:02 for the mile and 13:53 for the 5k in college but never an 10k on the track. When I was in shape I could probably run under 30 for the 10k. At least that is what I got from that individuals post.

You just sound ignorant and jealous. Dozens of guys run those times every year in the states. How many of them come to letsrun? Probably the vast majority.

coach d wrote:

TLW wrote:

Wejo ran 8 minute pace at 7500+ feet, was ~75 seconds slower than these athletes over 10k, and was running at a significantly higher volume (120-140 per week) than Galen and Mo.

Which should tell you all you need to know about the JK mileage bullshit spread around here. Bob Kennedy with MacDonald was doing 95-105 mi/wk peak at around 5:40 pace. And we all know about Lagat running even faster on significantly lower mileage at significantly faster pace.

To be fair, I think the JK mileage bullshit has its merits. The more mileage you are able to handle the better, but sacrificing your pace to run more and more miles per week becomes silly at a certain point

Obviously every run is not at 530-545 pace, but their quality runs each day are. I'm sure theres recovery runs at 6-7min pace, they just arent counted in daily mileage. Basing this off common sense and seeing somewhere that Rupp doesn't count miles slower than 6 min pace in logging?

Interesting article. I don't know quite what to make of AS saying that Farah is only doing 2/3s of Galen's workout. Its hard to reconcile that with Farah dropping Rupp in the NY Half and in an earlier indoor race. And that is a hell of a lot of mileage that AS says they are running. I new Rupp was upping his mileage a lot after last season. But I recall reading that it was around 110MPW, Not 120-140MPW.

coach d wrote:

TLW wrote:

Wejo ran 8 minute pace at 7500+ feet, was ~75 seconds slower than these athletes over 10k, and was running at a significantly higher volume (120-140 per week) than Galen and Mo.

Which should tell you all you need to know about the JK mileage bullshit spread around here. Bob Kennedy with MacDonald was doing 95-105 mi/wk peak at around 5:40 pace. And we all know about Lagat running even faster on significantly lower mileage at significantly faster pace.

It doesn't tell us a goddamn thing. Compare Wejo's times in college vs. post- to Rupp's.

Wow a guy did a thing (at 5k no less) on kind of low mileage; whoop de doo coach d has spoken. And what was Geb running?

It's good to know I run my easy runs at the same pace Mo Farah used to. I also run 17 minutes for a 5k and 4:57 for a mile, so I'm really looking forward to running 13s soon.

What Salazar is trying to tell us is that Farah when running sub-28/13:10 off of 6:45/mile was one lazy MoFo.

Salazar has never been the sharpest tool in the shed. Still caught up on the more is better, his primary achilles heel.

Bottom line Farah has eschewed the junk miles and is now running roughly the same moderate volume Rupp ran for his PBs last season. It would be a pity if Farah, trying to do more, ended up broken like Ritz.

Advantage is Farah's spot is secure. Moreover, many of the best Kenyan and Ethiopians will not be allowed to run worlds or Olympics. In competing for selection, others will be closer to overtrained, some will end up hurt.

Something to be said for leaving some stones unturned in that scenario.

I'm kinda curious to hear what Alberto will say if Rupp can't PB in Birmingham seeing his charge has done so much more mileage.

The whole "Farah is only doing 2/3 of what Rupp is" was taken totally out of context in the original article.

In the IAAF version (http://www.iaaf.org/competitions/dlm/news/newsid=60762.html) Salazar is quoted as saying "if I tell [Mo] he's only doing 2/3rds of the workout Galen is doing he'll just do it.”

Because Farah has only been with him a few months, he can't always handle everything that Rupp is doing. Although I do wonder if he'll push Farah too far and end up like Ritz or Webb.

Also, I thought that improving American distance running was one of the Oregon Project goals? Funny then that Salazar's training a British guy to beat Rupp!

"Doesn't increasing your pace mean that you are going slower? Since pace is measured in minutes per mile, increasing pace means running more minutes per mile, right?"

No, pace is measured in distance per unit time. Miles per hour, for example. Increasing pace means running more distance per time, which means you are running at a faster speed.

The dope is going to kill Mo.

Mexican Magic wrote:

I reckon Sal is trying to trick Solinsky into running 140 miles a week at 5.30 pace and getting injured in the process. Its all part of his master plan.

And wearing a mask.

get a brain morans wrote:

Obviously every run is not at 530-545 pace, but their quality runs each day are. I'm sure theres recovery runs at 6-7min pace, they just arent counted in daily mileage. Basing this off common sense and seeing somewhere that Rupp doesn't count miles slower than 6 min pace in logging?

Pure guessing.

What about all this training on the underwater treadmill. Are Rupp and Farah running 5.30 mile pace under water or are they running 120-140 miles a week at 5.30 pace plus another 50 miles a week underwater. Doesnt add up