Pre Classic - Men's 10K and Women's 5K Fields!

I hope to god that none of these pussies head to Europe this summer because they "need the competition". The competition has come to you and you made the choice to pussy out.

Truth Sayer wrote:

We got some big time studs in the 10k and none of our best (Abdi is over the hill) runners want to take them on? What kind of chicken sh*t pansies do we have on our side?

Ironic that this race is being hosted in memory of PRE. The same guy who would have lined up for this year's 10k - regardless of when the trials were. No guts, no glory.

That's how much he loved a good competition. All our US hopefuls should be ashamed of themselves for disgracing the meet and the man. F**kin pansies.

um...pre was an amateur. Rupp and the soksi are professionals. They actually need to perform to get paid.

Look up Webb, Alan as exhibit one for what happens to these guys if they have an off year or two. No shoe contract, no coach, running road miles and trying to scrape by with a new wife.

It makes almost no sense to kill yourself in a 10k 3 or 4 weeks before USAs.

Calling it that Tadese gets the World Record PROVIDED that the weather is good

Man runs 58:30 and has had nothing but training since, he must be saving up something special. He's definitely in the right field and in the right shape to do so.

Imagine if he snags Bekele's WR, and with Bekele not running this years World Championships, the man undefeated at 10000m will be facing the man who has stolen his WR, at the Olympics.

Rupp is paid by Nike. Most Nike runners are told to run there, I guess Rupp is the exception to the rule.

I agree, you need to PERFORM to be paid. So... PERFORM! Bottom line: American's are afraid to race. In most cases the world. Remember when there was a trials in the 10k? In the 70's these guys ran the trials 10k, then ran the marathon trials (yup, it was held on the same week) and then came back for the 10k final.

Yes that was probably dumb but they all did it and raced. High Schoolers don't race each other, college teams duck out from top competition to protect their "ranking" and pros race once a month so they wont run bad and keep getting a pay check.

If running ever wants to be paid you actually need to perform week in and week out. Hockey plays 3-4 times a week. Baseball 6 or 7. Football once. Our best runners run 1-3 times a year. No wonder our sport media is controlled by Dean what's his name. At least he does something to get in the news.

If Rupp can't handle a fast 10k, then run a sit and kick race a month later then he has no hope running against the best in the world anyways.

66.6 per 400m is significantly slower than 63.0, the pace of a 26:15 10,000. Possible, but he needs to have been working on more speed.

If he does get it I think we might be seeing the first real race on the track that sets a distance WR since Geb beat out Koman for the 5000 bragging rights. (I am think men's side here). Does anyone else recall a distance WR set in a racing-type racing as opposed to a time trial-type race?

26mi235 wrote:

Does anyone else recall a distance WR set in a racing-type racing as opposed to a time trial-type race?

Well, mid-distance, but Hicham El Guerrouj breaking the mile WR 3:43.13 with Noah Ngeny on his shoulder:

And for distance, Paul Tergat's 2:04:55 marathon record at Berlin with Sammy Korir only a second behind.

Also, Khalid Khannouchi's 2:05:38 WR over Haile Gebrselassie and Tergat At the 2002 London Marathon was a pretty good race.

Dear Galen Rupp and Chris Solinsky,

If you're looking for the right opportunity to prove that you're trying to race competition and not just run fast times, this is it.

Sincerely,

American Running Fans

Whatever happend to these guys going to Hengelo in June for a fast 10,000?

it is very likely that he gets KB's record. I predict 26:12

I just don't get it. Let's say all these guys go out and run 26:35-26:59. What does that do to Rupp's confidence going into the WC with a significantly slower PR, from a year ago, only having contested a sit and kick USATF championship 10k this year? Wouldn't it be better (if he is prepared, which I am assuming he is) to finish 3rd-6th or whatever, get a benchmark for where he is at today and what he needs to work on, maybe snag an AR and be the second non-African to be sub 27:00? And then go into the WC with knowledge of where he stands rather then just THINKING he is where he needs to be?

Amen. This is the race where Solinsky or Rupp could truly prove that they're capable of snagging a medal at a championship race. There isn't any other race this year other than the actual World Championships themselves where they'll get the chance...

Even if Rupp came into USA a little tired, which three guys are going to beat him? If all the top dogs run the 10k I would say a slightly tired Rupp is a lock given that Ritz is out. And we know all the best won't run the 10k anyways, because who wants to go to Worlds and get lapped by Africans?

You have to remember that Rupp was geared up for a fast 10K early in the spring. But the New Zealand earthquake happened and he ended up entering himself in the New York half. And he did very well there. He clearly wanted a benchmark race in the 10K earlier in the year before gearing up for US and Worlds. But it just didn't work out. Now, that window is closed. Rupp doesn't want to run a fast 10K in June just to prove a point. Anyway, he can take a lot of confidence from the NY half. Plus, at this point he has pretty good experience running against the top East African runners. He knows what they can do and where he has to be. As for Solinsky. I'm assuming at this point he is aiming at the 5K for Worlds, so the 10K at PRE is even more meaningless to him.

Conto wrote:

I just don't get it. Let's say all these guys go out and run 26:35-26:59. What does that do to Rupp's confidence going into the WC with a significantly slower PR, from a year ago, only having contested a sit and kick USATF championship 10k this year? Wouldn't it be better (if he is prepared, which I am assuming he is) to finish 3rd-6th or whatever, get a benchmark for where he is at today and what he needs to work on, maybe snag an AR and be the second non-African to be sub 27:00? And then go into the WC with knowledge of where he stands rather then just THINKING he is where he needs to be?

Probably a bad time of year for Rupp's allergies.

Solinsky is leaning towards running the 5k at worlds because of the hot weather. He has said this numerous times. I'm not sure about Rupp. I know Solinsky said at the Payton Jordan invite that he was running either the 2 mile or 10k so it looks like it will be the 2 mile. Rupp probably running the 2 mile too. I know Teg is running the deuce, it should be an exciting race. the american record of 8:07 is definitely going down.

Like ryan foreman said, Rupp was supposed to take a crack at the 10k AR in New Zealand in March. Because of the earthquake, he ran the NYC Half instead and did very well there.

If you guys remember, after Rupp ran that XC race a few months ago Salazar talked about Rupp's training this year and how it was different. He talked about Rupp running significantly higher mileage (100+) and peaking "twice", once during the indoor season and then again during the outdoor season. He said Rupp will take some time off after the indoor season, so he's probably coming off that break right now. He could probably still run a decent 10k, but is probably not as ready for a race like this as he was in March.

As far as Solinsky, I think he should run since he really hasn't raced since the Mt. SAC 1500 a couple of weeks ago. That being said, his focus is 5k this year so running a good 2 mile isn't a bad tune-up either. I just think it would be cooler for him to race against this field.

will there be any live coverage of these races???

It would be nice if they could get some Americans in that 25-30K to go for Bill Rodgers AR.

Perhaps Ryan Hall and some other marathon types.

20,000 58:25.0 Bill Rodgers (Greater Boston TC) Boston, Massachusetts 8/09/77

Hour 20,547/12.77M Bill Rodgers (Greater Boston TC) Boston, Massachusetts 8/09/77

25,000 1:14:11.8 Bill Rodgers (Greater Boston TC) Saratoga, California 2/21/79

30,000 1:31:49 Bill Rodgers (Greater Boston TC) Saratoga, California 2/21/79