12-year old GIRL runs 16:43 XC 5k in College Race?

You people are overlooking one factor in this equation that lends itself to credibility - Mike Pigg.

Now if we only knew the athletic pedigree of her mother...anyone know this?

silly old fossil wrote:

Now if we only knew the athletic pedigree of her mother...anyone know this?

Well, she competes in triathlons too:

Looks like at the end of a triathlon, she can run a 5k in about 25 minutes...at the age of 46.

I'd say the genetics are pretty good.

the course was short, everyone PRed

the piggs can fly wrote:

the course was short, everyone PRed

Yup, you're right.

But I see other results with 27 minute 5ks at the end of tris for her. Again, in the mid-late 40s.

I'm sure your mother's PR is nothing near that.

Let's take a peak at others' times in that race and what kinds of times they run on other courses

Event 2 Women 5k Run CC

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Name Year School Finals Points

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1 #364 Pigg, Chole Unattached 16:43.00

2 #184 Graham, Irene Humboldt State 18:12.00 1

3 #173 Dahlgren, Tess Humboldt State 18:42.00 2

4 #175 Perez, Christina Humboldt State 19:32.00 3

5 #198 Rotman, Alizah Humboldt State 19:37.00 4

6 #344 Castell, Jeannie Unattached 19:47.00

7 #339 Aschenbrenner, Kind Unattached 20:18.00

8 #349 Magee, Melinda Unattached 20:33.00

9 #176 Sisson, Fontayne Humboldt State 20:41.00 5

10 #185 Hopmans, Tanja Humboldt State 20:54.00 6

6K Times at 2009 CHampionship meet: (Source -

http://www.goccaa.org/custompages/Results-F1.htm

)

26 Irene Graham JR Humboldt State 24:05.2

41 Tess Dahlgrern JR Humboldt State 24:45.0

does mid 18s on that fast 5k course (where the 12 yr old ran 16:43) correspond well to 24min for 6k? not sure

Other recent race results for this 12 yr old

2010 2mile race

Chloe Pigg (12F) 11:02

Source

http://www.foggybottommilkrun.com/about.html

2009 2mile race

Chloe Pigg (11F) 11:38)

Chloe Pigg (Roseville), 10:30.96/6th USATF JO Midget XC

Source:

http://rise.espn.go.com/track-and-xc/california/2010-xc/News/0909-WTAG-Cross-Country.aspx?sport=TrackAndXC

"Chloe Pigg ran 5:39 on 4/4/09 at Humboldt State Unversity and is an 11 year old girl." - Source:

http://www.maybenow.com/What-is-the-fastest-mile-time-by-a-11-year-old-girl-q17641455

yeah, as someone already pointed out, that 10:30 is a 3K, not a 3200m

Having Mike Pigg as a father definitely makes this look pretty legit, even if the 5k course might be off.

If February, Chloe ran the Clam Beach run in Trinidad (north of Arcata/McKinleyville) and ran the 5.75 mile course in 35:10 (6:06 pace). From personal experience, I can attest that it's a legit course. It's mostly roads with rolling hills and the last 2 miles are on the beach to the finish.

Based on the picture of the XC race, that's on the HSU track, which means the course went into the redwood forest trails that are behind the university. There's nothing flat about those trails.

Link for Clam Beach Results:

http://bit.ly/d8cPgg

What's the likelihood this is a three mile as opposed to a 5k? Or outright a 4k? Or a two-mile? I mean, there's two explanations: 1) she's a future Olympian/World Leader, 2) there's been a simple mistake. As for the dude who suggested a 9 year old ran 15:20, or whatever... either screwing with us because he/she is a jerk, or a total, total idiot.

Last name is Pigg? That is kind of a rough name to go through life with!

That would make it about 4.7k, at most 3 miles (4.828k). It's clear that some (even College) XC courses either aren't accurately measured, or are set-up differently on the day than might have been previously accurately measured. This is the bane of road-races (and their measurer's) as well that set-up sometimes changes what was intended, which can make for a short course.

It is most likely a 3 mile race.

Also, the guys´ course was also definitely short, wouldn´t you say? It´s supposed to be an 8k...

1 #180 Huff, Austin Humboldt State 24:28.69 1

2 #328 Malain, Eric Humboldt State 24:28.91 2

3 #177 Arguelles, Nicholas Humboldt State 24:45.00 3

4 #200 Daniel, Hunter Humboldt State 24:56.00 4

5 #179 Gustas, Robert Humboldt State 25:33.00 5

6 #182 Quintero, Roberto Humboldt State 25:43.00 6

7 #181 Lactaoen, Derek Humboldt State 25:45.00 7

8 #329 Ostini, Joe Humboldt State 25:54.00

9 #248 Lewis, Jason Unattached 26:06.00

10 #327 Gutierez, Abel Humboldt State 26:07.00

i'd say that both courses were definitely short. Times were well beyond what any of these folks have run previously.

Even with that said though, this gal is pretty darn talented. Probably worth something in the 17's for an actual 5k.. which is smoking!

the course was at college of the redwoods not HSU so its not as crazy of hills - i don't care how good she is in other stuff, you do not bust out a sub 17 after the other times she has run, not a chance - and not one of those guys has run sub 25 before so i would say they are both short

Pigg was a monster on the bike, couldn't run worth a damn. Would also guess the little Pigg has grown up doing all the disciplines of tri's and is advanced for her age, we all know it catches it with us (Bri J. ring a bell).

From the pictures on the Humboldt site it looks like they ran portion of the race on the track. I'm going to guess they were supposed to have everyone run 2 laps around the track but mistakenly only had them run 1. If you do the math, those times look more realistic for 4600m and 7600m races for the athletes involved. That would still make it a low-18:00 race for the young girl. Pretty impressive.

sy snootles wrote:

Last name is Pigg? That is kind of a rough name to go through life with!

hence her endurance. girl spent a lot of time running from her biotch classmates: "here piggy piggy piggy!"

Dr. Dremo wrote:

Remember Briana Jackucewicz?

She ran 16:43 indoors as a 7th grader in 2004.

Now is now a sophomore in college, nominally on the team at Harvard, but hasn't run anything of note in about 3-4 years.

Puberty is a bitch. Lots of great freshmen just disappear when those hips show up.

inhouse wrote:

Puberty is a bitch. Lots of great freshmen just disappear when those hips show up.

Same thing happened to that guy Magness from Texas.