Fam = Modern Day Pre

Webb/Hall = Pre.

Actually both are much faster.

joe 90 wrote:

Webb/Hall = Pre.

Actually both are much faster.

lets see

1500 pre 338, hall 342 advantage pre

3k pre 742, hall 756 advantage pre.

5k pre 13.22, hall 13.16 advantage hall

mile pre 354, hall 405 advamtage pre

10k pre 27.43, hall 28.07 advantage pre.

hall should improve, but hall has already lived 2 years longer than pre did.

Webb is faster than Pre at every distance.

Than again Pre was running when the Godfather was playing in theaters.

webb has run faster than pre in all events from 800 to 10k, but pre got higher on the all time list than webb.

I don't get how Fam in the modern day Pre. Explain?

Fam is merely a very good runner. He is not in the class of Webb, Hall, or Pre. Fam is certainly one of the better US steeplechase runners right now.

he's talking about the attitude.

i'm sure the OP is talking in terms of what he brings to the sport, personality, and excitement wise. not just talent.

pre was way more cocky than fam though with a bigger ego.

fam is certainly fun to watch.

"who cares about a meet record when you can get people excited about track?" -fam

Fam = Modern day Fam.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

fil lander wrote:

"who cares about a meet record when you can get people excited about track?" -fam

Unless Fam starts doing cartwheels after races or some other type of "stunt," people are not going to get excited about track. That's the only way track going to make Sportscenter. I don't really care about meet records, but national records and placing at worlds will definitely get people excited. I don't know, it kind of seems like a cop out. Kinda like Fam knows he can't run the kind of times needed to drop people's jaws, so he has to be a "show" of sorts. At least in Pre's time he was the top runner and he put on the best show.

hall has already lived 2 years longer than pre did.

which makes hall better than Pre...

Pre won, thats what makes him special, people are going to continue to get faster and faster, but I dont know if we will ever see someone dominate the NCAA and US track like that again

Hall is the same age as Pre when he died.

donzo!!! wrote:

hall has already lived 2 years longer than pre did.

which makes hall better than Pre...

Let Fam be Fam

Let Hall be Hall

Let Diego be Diego x 2

And shit man ...

Let Pre be Pre ...

You can't accurately compare anyone today with

someone from 30 years ago unless your measure

on Victories. Measuring and comparing on times

is not cool. IE ... Pre dominated the NCAA's and

US distance running back in the day. Chances are

that he would rise to that same level of domination

today ... because he was Pre and was going to break

the National High School 2 Mile record regardless;

if it has been 8:31 ... he would have run 8:29.

God only knows what he would have done on the

world scene had he lived; but my guess is that he

would have continued to rise to the occasion, beat

Viren in Mawntreawl and broken at least the 5k

World's Record.

Let Fam continue to grow into who he is without putting

the unrealistic expectations on him to be someone who

he is not.

For some reason we are always trying to resurrect someone

else's career into a present day growing star; IE "He is the

NEXT ONE" ... referring to Sid the Kid's evolution into Wayne

Gretzky. Its much more fun to watch todays budding athletic

stars become who they are trying to become as they grow into

and establish their own character ... whoever and whatever

that might be.

[quote]think fast wrote:

Hall is the same age as Pre when he died.

[quote]

FWIW, Hall is 25 1/2. Pre died at 24.

donzo!!! wrote:

hall has already lived 2 years longer than pre did.

which makes hall better than Pre...[/quote]

"older"

doug burke wrote:

lets see

1500 pre 338, hall 342 advantage pre

3k pre 742, hall 756 advantage pre.

5k pre 13.22, hall 13.16 advantage hall

mile pre 354, hall 405 advamtage pre

10k pre 27.43, hall 28.07 advantage pre.

hall should improve, but hall has already lived 2 years longer than pre did.

Wow, that's really interesting. Who'd have thought that Pre's PRs are so much better than Hall's, save of course the marathon. There is a lot of pre-bashing here, but it's pretty amazing to think that he would still be a serious contender in the trials even today, in this age of scientific training and PEDs.

Rocafella wrote:

Fam = Modern Day Pre

Uh oh, then you better keep him away from beer and MG's.

FAMiglietti Fam

PREfontaine Pre

both rebellious

bothe very tough runners

and i just think their attitudes are alike