How do you hate worse: Kornheiser or Wilbon

it's the best sports show on television.

go home.

People who spell "who" as "how"

ESPN has become terrible, evidenced by their "countdown clock" to NFL free agency. What a joke, I mean I love football as much as the next guy, but there are some great college BB and NBA games going on now, and an offseason sport where the biggest news is that there are no great free agents is the lead story?

Who cares? And please, the coverage of the combine is overblown just like the highlights of spring training. Show games that matter and count, like bball and hockey right now. Hell, show some soccer highlights too.

You can't tell me you all like those Coors Lite Cold Hard Facts promotions, and the Miller Lite Good Call Bad Call, Who's Now (what the f*** is whos now), and Berman ruining the best highlights of the past three decades. Less "analysis" (if it can even be called that), and more highlights and coverage of games.

Sportscenter used to be my favorite show, but I can barely watch it. If my team, Villanova, had a game in the past and I wasn't able to see it, I could always see highlights on sportscenter. Now, unless they are playing a top team, I see garbage like Clayton talking about injury reports.

If you hate them so much, don't watch the show.

PTI is decent, but Kornheiser is terrible on MNF. I like Wilbon.

Gotta agree that ESPN is practically unwatchable any more. However, if the original poster doesn't like Kornheiser or Wilbon, why is he/she watching the show? It is one of the few things on ESPN, other than actual sporting events, that I enjoy once in awhile.

I enjoy PTI, and I think both Kornheiser and Wilbon have well researched views, even if I don't always agree. What I don't like about the show is that, much like Crossfire, it makes everyone watching think that they too will be thought of as an expert if they just shout their opinions and interrupt a lot.

hsrunner2 wrote:

What I don't like about the show is that, much like Crossfire, it makes everyone watching think that they too will be thought of as an expert if they just shout their opinions and interrupt a lot.

Man, its a show about sports!

If you can't yell and interrupt while having an argument about opinions on sports, then what kind of fun is it?

There are no objective measurements that "Dook sucks" or that Michigan is better than Ohio State. Well researched views? What are they writing a term paper? Sports is about yelling and interrupting and generally having a good time, all while being good natured about it.

That's what makes PTI such a great show - the guys jab back and forth with each other, but they genuinely like and respect each other. It's good natured ribbing here and there. It's like the arguments you have with your buddies about the "best quarterback ever" or some other fictional category that means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Of course, guys like you who don't, won't, or can't appreciate that probably endear yourselves to conversations by quoting track times ad naseum..."Umm, Bekele's last lap was 60.2 NOT 60.3!" or some crap like that.

Next time, relax a little. Sports are fun and are entertainment, they're not made to be stuffed in a library and spoken about with hushed voices and calm demeanors. Hell, that's why beer makes sports so much better.

If you represent a significant portion of people your age, I just can't believe the pussification of this board, and our youth in general. Al Qaeda really has won then.

It's bad enough that ESPN shows NASCAR as much as they do, but last week when SportsCenter featured some fishing tournament, they hit a new all-time low. Yep, that's sports... fat men sitting in a boat drinking beer.

Sorry, I should have been more clear in my first post. Of course you are supposed to yell and interrupt when you are debating a trivial topic with your buddies. What I dislike is that people have taken the PTI/Crossfire method of "debate" and used it in other settings. Calling your buddy a f***ing idiot because he thinks Michael Johnson could beat Paul Tergat in an 800 is fine. Doing the same in English class, however, is not.

I like both Kornheiser and Wilbon, Kornheiser probably a bit moreso. They have excellent chemistry. I don't really like any of the guys who sub for either one of them. And yes, "The Hustler" is at least ten times as good as "Chariots of Fire."

Just PTI My Arse wrote:

I don't know if anyone caught the show, but Wilbon dismissed running as "not a real sport".

Pathetic.

Sport:

an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Athletic:

of or pertaining to athletes; involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina

Sport is just a competition between two people. Technically the first person to chew a piece of gum 500 times could be a sport. The notion that nascar or fishing aren't sports because they don't involve a ton of physical activity is just a misunderstanding of the word "Sport".

Just because it's not something you like to watch or do doesn't mean it's not a sport. As for Wilbon considering running not a real sport, he's just mentioning how he doesn't like to watch it or partake in it. Just the same you don't like to watch NASCAR or Fishing. You can be defensive about running since you're a runner, but a good number of people don't like it and that's their opinion. Chill out.

Wilbon is good on the NBA but is a jock sniffer.Mr Tony is a funny Jewish kid from Long Island. Together they are the best thing on ESPN and a MUST SEE EVERY DAY.