The most vile trash on earth

I have no lust for vengeance. These people did nothing to me. But they should receive the death penalty for what they did, and what the mother did to her own child. Did you look at the photo of that beautiful little girl. My God, your arrogance at blaming those who call for the death penalty because of the "lust for vengeance" canard is disgusting. These two pieces of human filth violated that child in almost every way conceivable and you say it is our lust for vengeance. No, it is our desire to live in a society with laws, with justice and with punishment. They broke the laws, they will receive their justice and they will face their punishment. Civil society cannot allow this, it's not vengeance. If it was vengeance, they would be hanging from a street lamp already.

The death penalty is too good for them. Let them rot in jail for decades (if they don't get killed in jail first), and remember this all the days of their lives.

It is vengeance. They did something horrible to an innocent person, and we want to lash back out at them. No doubt they deserve it, but what will it do? It won't stop something horrible like this from happening again. These are obviously very sicl people that can't be expected to think rationally. If you want them to truly suffer, then you'd want them to spend a whole lot of understanding the extent of their unforgivable actions. That's a far graver penalty than just flipping a switch.

oh mobile you sick twisted lib idiot.

We dont care that it will not bring the girl back to life or that it will not prevent another child from being abused. But they should pay the ultimate price for committing such a horrible crime.

A rules and consequences are important for a civil society. Since the libs took over we have become less and less civil.

People who do such harmful and despicable things have no place in civil society. I don't feel the least bit vengeful. Clearly some people are either born defective, or become irretrievably damaged that they literally cannot be helped.

The value of human life extends no further than the humanity it values and serves. I do not want these two to suffer any more than a violent and rabid pit bull, in either case they simply need to be put down. The DP is only a good deterrent to those who value life, these two and others like them do not care.

What purpose is served by some show trial circus? Are you actually curious about the potentially provocative details of their lives? Lots of people have bad things happen to them and they deserve help getting through it, some get over it, some don't. Using your own negative experience as an excuse to inflict further damage just doesn't fly.

mobile9 wrote:

Killing these deploarable excuses for human beings won't bring this child back to life. It would only serve to satisfy our lust for vengeance. These people sure as hell don't deserve to live, but it shouldn't be the state who kills them.

Exactly. Most civilized societies have gotten beyond this.

you know whats really sad?That this is nowhere near the most vile trash on earth.

The death penalty is too good for them. Let them rot in jail for decades (if they don't get killed in jail first), and remember this all the days of their lives.

That's the problem with our prison system. Convicted murderers don't rot in jail. They go to the gym and the library, eat three hot meals a day, live in air-conditioned/heated buildings (all of which we pay for), all while maintaining their innocence and protesting their living conditions.

Now, if these two were headed to Devils Island a la Steve McQueen in "Papillon", eating roaches off a dirt cell floor, I might go for life imprisonment without parole.

Obviously these two individuals are mentally disturbed and might have been on drugs, etc. They had no good parental role models, were abused themselves, etc., etc. No matter. This type of crime deserves the maximum punishment: death.

"grif" has it right. This is about upholding a civil society. We cannot allow anyone to think for a minute they can do this and keep their life.

You're correct though, these two probably wouldn't last long in prison.

Why have children? She was a beautiful little girl. That should give you reason enough... She appeared really bright and happy too, despite her circumstances, which is amazing for a 2 year old. She just wanted some adult to play with her, and they didn't want to.

Children like her are why people have children.

Parents like that is why we have the death penalty, which is far from enough.

That girl was supposed to do something special, you can just tell by looking at her face, even at two years old you can see it. You almost have to wonder why God takes little girls like that, and allows parents like those to remain on earth.

StreetRat wrote:

oh mobile you sick twisted lib idiot.

We dont care that it will not bring the girl back to life or that it will not prevent another child from being abused. But they should pay the ultimate price for committing such a horrible crime.

A rules and consequences are important for a civil society. Since the libs took over we have become less and less civil.

I find this incredibly ironic. You call mobile9 "sick" and "twisted" for NOT wanting to kill two people in a medieval manner, by just wanting to imprison them for the rest of their lives (a fate they probably would hate more than just dying) with some of the other worst people on earth?

You, friend, are sick and twisted. I don't care who the person is, I don't think ANY OTHER PERSON has the right to kill a person. Sometimes, I really don't mind if the state does want to kill them (like Ted Bundy, or Charles Manson) but that doesn't make it right.

These parents are awful. But mobile9 isn't in the minority in thinking that while they deserve to be locked up for life, and deserve to die, that the state doesn't have the right to do it. You are in the minority. Look around the world. How many states/countries still have capital punishment? Pull yourself out of the 11th century.

I agree that killing them won't bring back the child, or act as a deterent to the next monster to come upon the innocent. I also don't think that locking them up for life on the tax payer's dime will bring the child back or act as a deterent.

Since any punishment won't make things better I believe they should be executed to avoid the burden on society.

The death penalty is not a deterrant, it is a punishment. It is only achieved in our just society after someone has been found guilty of a horrible crime. And, quite often, only after numerous trials. It is not vengeance, it is punishment. If found guilty, hopefully they will receive it;and unlike the little child, they will have plenty of time to think about what their lives could have been.

It's not just rednecks

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Pragmatic Guy wrote:

I agree that killing them won't bring back the child, or act as a deterent to the next monster to come upon the innocent. I also don't think that locking them up for life on the tax payer's dime will bring the child back or act as a deterent.

Since any punishment won't make things better I believe they should be executed to avoid the burden on society.

It's actually more expensive to kill someone than to imprison them for life due to legal costs. The "tax payer's dime" about keeping someone in prison is a myth.

I thought there was a study that came out within the past 2 weeks claiming evidence the death penalty was a deterrent.

Death is not a punishment. It satisfies the offended, not suffers the condemned.

Yeah wrote:

It's actually more expensive to kill someone than to imprison them for life due to legal costs. The "tax payer's dime" about keeping someone in prison is a myth.

This is correct.

I have no *moral* objection to killing people like this--assuming that they were indeed the killers--because there are certain crimes for which one IMO forfeits his/her right to life.

But the DP does indeed cost taxpayers more than life-without-parole does; and, because mistakes are possible ("beyond a reasonable doubt" is not the same as "beyond *any* doubt"), and innocent people can be/have been executed, I just don't think the State's taking lives should be a possibility.

I guess what I really want is for these two never to reproduce and to spend the rest of their lives locked up so tight that they'd have to have their sunlight piped in to them.

What I *wouldn't* want would be for either of them to be "rehabilitated" or "find Jesus" in prison and be released to walk free. Ever.

People don't walk free because they found jesus if they beat a 2-year old to death.

I sincerely hope that you're right...twenty years from now, when "Mom" will still be in her thirties.