Can I qualify for the next Marathon trials?

apparently you can run a 2:38 marathon with that 5k time. keep at it and find out.

At my best I was a 16:20 5K, 2:35 marathon, 4;47 mile guy, off about 80-90 miles a week. I think I got everything out of the body I won in the genetic lottery.

If you are indeed a trials candidate will depend on large part on what sort of chassis YOU got in that lottery. Seems to me , from what you've told us, that you're a bubble candidate. If you respond in the right way to several years of high mileage training you might make enough improvements to get that 2:22 time...but there is always the likelihood that you will hit your genetic ceiling before you get there and no matter how hard you hammer yourself you won't get any faster.

Thats the beauty about our sport...you won't know for sure until you try. Good luck.

How should I progress my mileage? Will building up to 120 mpw be the best way to reap the improvements I seek for the marathon?

WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK MILEAGE IS THE SOLE ANSWER TO GETTING BETTER?

21questions wrote:

WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK MILEAGE IS THE SOLE ANSWER TO GETTING BETTER?

Because it is.

Obviously MP workouts will be important, but I highly doubt I can run a qualifying time running 75 mpw.

Forget about the marathon until you have some other long road races that suggest that you're getting close.

LT runs should be done year 'round. 2-3 times a week isn't a bad idea. Buildup the mileage as high as you can, but avoid breaking down in the process. If you have to drop your speed significantly, then the bump is too big. Your goal shouldn't be to get to 120. Rather, it should be to run 120 at a strong pace and still be able to hammer good workouts, without feeling like a complete zombie.

Don't worry too much about the 20 mile runs at first. If you're looking long-term, then do the longest run that you can do at a hard pace. Finish these runs harder than you start. This might mean starting at 10 miles with the last 3 hard. Eventually you can work your way up to 20, with the last 6-10 miles hard.

you will never qualify, you don't have a big enough dick

LOL, that got a laugh.

Who here thinks I still have a chance qualifying with the new 2:19 standard considering my background?

16:16 on the track= 2:17:30 PACE

to run a sub 2:19 you would have to run most 5k splits under 16:30 as a 2:19 is about 16:27 pace. No one in the world has that kind of endurance.

You NEED better 5k speed. To get better 5k speed you need better mile speed. Break 4:30, until then it looks grim.

ACtually...

3:43/2:04:26X2:19= about a 4:07 mile. So you need to break 4:20 AND have excellent endurance

good luck

fUrCeOsNhN wrote:

16:16 on the track= 2:17:30 PACE

to run a sub 2:19 you would have to run most 5k splits under 16:30 as a 2:19 is about 16:27 pace. No one in the world has that kind of endurance.

You NEED better 5k speed. To get better 5k speed you need better mile speed. Break 4:30, until then it looks grim.

ACtually...

3:43/2:04:26X2:19= about a 4:07 mile. So you need to break 4:20 AND have excellent endurance

good luck

i disagree. do you know what brian sell's mile PR is in comparison to his marathon pr?

i don't think lowering your mile time has NOTHING to do with marathon training. if this guy gets to the point where he can run 2:20, obviously he will be able to run under 4:40, 4:30, or whatever. really, it doesn't matter. what matters is massively expanding his base and endurance. speed may matter in the last mile of the race, but what's really important is the 25.2 which comes before it.

i too am shooting for this mark, and i've run 14:56. pretty sure that i've reached the top of genetic possibility with that though. best of luck.