Next BALCO customers ?

What about Salazar? How quickly people forget that Salazar was affiliated with Conte.

AlSal did what exactly w/Conte? More news to me...

AlSal and Conte had a relationship. The legal heat put up a cease and desist order and AlSal's name was removed from the Balco website - despite the relationship. Nike has basically scrubbed everything clean - there is a dead link on the brojos drug page, referencing a nyt article where salazar admits to getting some zma and urine tests, but - of course - nothing more.

DynEPO is probably illegal sports-wise. It is the test for it that is not yet fully worked out -- what level is a violation etc.

According to Dr. Jim Stray-Gundersen, a well known endurance sports enthusiast - EPO research specialist - friend of Alberto Salazar; team physician for Rupp and the Goucher's; all around good guy; and never followed by a cloud of doping accusations

"Urine tests at this juncture would only catch the stupid doper," said Jim Stray-Gundersen, a University of Utah professor, physician and sports doping expert.

Stray-Gundersen noted there are numerous ways to blood dope and beat the testing system. There is no test for Dynepo, a red-blood-cell booster."

More interesting

"An EPO test is deemed to be positive is the erythropoietin is obtained chemically but due to the fact Dynepo is made from human cells WADA fear that is could be mistaken with human EPO resulting in the "non-positive" result."

Nice insight into beating the dope test:

Hemax is produced by Bio Sidus SA in Argentina and is a lypholized powder form of rh-EPO alpha. It CAN cause a positive test if used w/in 7 days of a urinalysis drug control in which EPO is specifically screened for. Nothing is for certain, nothing is guaranteed. NameChanged, it's good that you didn't get pinched. Watch those USADA f***ers. You should always keep a pH altering tablet that you can grab and insert in the head of your penis before urinating.

You always have the option of telling them to wait for xx-minutes while you chain up your dog or secure your firearms or do whatever you need to do that takes priority over their fascist controls. During this interim you shove that little pill into the pee-hole and as it slowly, and painfully dissolves it will alter the pH of your urine enough to render undetectable the EPO metabolites.

what is that conversation from?

it's from a place and source that I will not disclose.there are "BALCOs" and "Victor Contes" everywhere

nothing in my pee hole wrote:

what is that conversation from?

Clarification:

The text following "More interesting" is not a quote from Dr. Stray Gundersen.

The "More interesting" and "Nice insight" sections are only meant to be there to offer insight into how some dopers beat the tests.

-=Big Ben=- wrote:

You should always keep a pH altering tablet that you can grab and insert in the head of your penis before urinating.

That's good advice anytime.

and you thought that the little pocket in your short shorts was for your keys!

Crazy stuff up there people - wow. I feel dirty after reading that "tip."

By the way, please tell me that Janet Evans was clean...yes? How far back does it go in swimming?

I'm completely not up to speed on the how's & whatnot's of the Rasmussen situation & DynEPO test, but here is the basic idea:

cyclingnews.co.za

Rasmussen took Dynepo in Tour -

Friday, September 28, 2007

While legally not a violation of the anti-doping code, Danish rider Michael Rasmussen was found to have taken Dynepo in the 2007 Tour de France.

Dynepo is an EPO product based on human cells. Samples from this year's Tour were analysed in the French anti-doping lab in Châtenay-Malabry, and its technicians have alerted the International Cycling Union (UCI) of the findings, French paper L'Equipe reported in its Friday edition.

Dynepo was found in a urine test of Rasmussen. Rasmussen had not been found positive during the Tour, but was kicked out by his team Rabobank, following his whereabouts affair.

For about a year the French lab has detected Dynepo, all in all about ten cases so far, according to Pierre Bordry, the president of the French Anti-Doping Agency.

But none of the cases could have been declared as a positive finding, as the WADA criteria of positivity of a test are not yet adapted to the advances in the pharmaceutical market.

Crazy stuff up there people - wow. I feel dirty after reading that "tip."

By the way, please tell me that Janet Evans was clean...yes? How far back does it go in swimming?

I'm completely not up to speed on the how's & whatnot's of the Rasmussen situation & DynEPO test, but here is the basic idea:

cyclingnews.co.za

Rasmussen took Dynepo in Tour -

Friday, September 28, 2007

While legally not a violation of the anti-doping code, Danish rider Michael Rasmussen was found to have taken Dynepo in the 2007 Tour de France.

Dynepo is an EPO product based on human cells. Samples from this year's Tour were analysed in the French anti-doping lab in Châtenay-Malabry, and its technicians have alerted the International Cycling Union (UCI) of the findings, French paper L'Equipe reported in its Friday edition.

Dynepo was found in a urine test of Rasmussen. Rasmussen had not been found positive during the Tour, but was kicked out by his team Rabobank, following his whereabouts affair.

For about a year the French lab has detected Dynepo, all in all about ten cases so far, according to Pierre Bordry, the president of the French Anti-Doping Agency.

But none of the cases could have been declared as a positive finding, as the WADA criteria of positivity of a test are not yet adapted to the advances in the pharmaceutical market.