D3 XC Individual Contenders

Final Prediction

Hany Abdallah of NYU for the win.

sigl won kosgei second

a young male distance runner wrote:

Erichsen not a title contender? Man don't you look silly.

oh really.....

samo shit wrote:

Final Prediction

Hany Abdallah of NYU for the win.

Good prediction--he (and the rest of his team) DID win!

Uh yes, yes you still look silly. He got 3rd in the nation. I would say that would be a national title contender. Yes, Sigl beat him, congrats you got that part right, but Butzler definitely did not beat him.

Next year Abdallah will win. He will run 22:30 and do handsprings down the final 200 meters. He will run a sub 4 minute mile halfway through the race without realizing it. On an uphill. Steve Prefontaine's ghost will rise from the dead to give him advice, should he need it (he won't). The next day he will shatter the NCAA 5k and 10k records by himself on a junior high school track, and to make it quicker he will simply run the first half of the 10k in under 13 minutes, thereby securing both of the records in a single run. Then he will find all those that dared oppose him during his rise to greatness, reach into their chests, and eat their cowardly little hearts.

. . .and then he will wake up, change his sheets, and try to go back to sleep.

Nice upset. It's good to see the unanimous favorite team get stomped.

Anyone see the race? When did Sigl break away? Did Kosgei outkick Erichsen or did he hold second? Great performances from Grant and Zdroik, who outgunned all the other favorites.

In my time predictions, Sigl (24:24) was only 1 second off - 24:25, and Ben Grant ran the exact time I predicted, 24:43. With snow and I presume wind, the times overall were a little slower. I didn't get any places right. Mull was close to my 8th prediction with 10th, and I got the top three but in different order. It's hard to know how they compared previously when they were in different meets, although Sigl did beat Erichsen earlier in the season by five seconds.

So in addition to Ben Grant's 4th place finish, who else ran a stellar race above and beyond expectations?

Hey. Hany has run faster than any of you. Screw you if you don't like his confidence. I can't wait to see him run 13:50 to shut you all up.

It is not confidence that bothers any of us about the number nine finisher. It is just the touchdown dance before he scores. Sigl had confidence. Kosgei had confidence. Erichsen had confidence. What they didn't have was the NY/NJ brashness that just doesn't play well in Peoria. That kid from NYU has a team title now so he won't back off his poor behavior. He will continue to be confused about what entertainment and confidence mean to the great unwashed. See you in the spring Mr. Abdallah.

Sigl and Kosgei were side by side all the way back across the soccer fields. it was hard to judge but it looked like neither had really opened up for a kick yet. at that point it was too close to call. then they hit the short hill right before the finish. sigl powered up hard and Kosgei got left behind. it looked like the race had been taken out of him by then. incredible duel, wish I could have been along next to them the whole time to watch them push each other. erichsen ran a great race but was never really in contention for the top 2 spots.

Sigl ran the last mile (about 7 seconds short of a mile) in 4:34. Kosgei ran 4:47, Erichsen 4:38. Seems like Erichsen was closing in on Kosgei -- I'd say 3 seconds is close enough to have been in contention for 2nd. For some reason he was 31st at the first mile. Maybe he wasn't feeling his best. Either way he and Kosgei are close enough that we should see a good contest in the Steeplechase next spring. Maybe a couple sub-14:10 5Ks from the top 3 too.

Another impressive final mile was Joe Sepe of Carleton, who moved up from 132 to 68 in 4:38. That would be tough, plowing through a crowded field at nationals like that, and that quickly. Perhaps if he didn't start the race in 267th he might have made all-american.

Split 4 on the results was not taken at the 4 mile mark. That mat was located at the one mile mark, and then the runners crossed it again on the last loop before heading to the finish. I would estimate that that split was taken about 10-12 seconds after the 6400 mark (the 1600, 3200, 4800, and 6400 were marked, not 1, 2, 3, 4, miles).

where have you found results with the splits?

Splits can be found here:

onlineraceresults.com

1600m split is correct

3200m split is 51 meters short (3149m)

4800m split is correct

6400m split is 60 meters long (6460m)

Remember the splits are taken at 1600m intervals, not the 1 mile, 2 mile, etc.

MK wrote:

Splits can be found here:

onlineraceresults.com

1600m split is correct

3200m split is 51 meters short (3149m)

4800m split is correct

6400m split is 60 meters long (6460m)

Remember the splits are taken at 1600m intervals, not the 1 mile, 2 mile, etc.

Are you sure that the 2nd split at about 3200m is short and not long? Maybe 3251m? The splits just don't make sense if it's short. The same is true from the Central Region splits. Knowing the topography of the course, the second mile should be easier than the third mile too. From the splits, I'd guess that both the 2nd split and the 4th split is long by about 40-50 meters... but it sounds like you must've measured them to satisfy your own curiousity?

Yes, you are correct. That is my mistake. It is 51 meters longer at the 2 mile. Sorry.

I got my info from Coach Daymont (of St. Olaf) and mistyped it in my last post.

MK wrote:

I got my info from Coach Daymont (of St. Olaf) and mistyped it in my last post.

bbb

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