Mottram who?

This is exactly what I thought before opening the thread. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words.

Sure. Buster talks himself up a lot but he's usually generous in defeat - as he was yesterday. Get over it guys.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22082619-12428,00.html

The 3,000m had been set up as a match-race between Mottram and Bekele, with the pair meeting for the first time since the Australian's breakthrough victory at last year's World Cup.

Bekele has only raced sparingly in 2007, but he looked anything but rusty in Sheffield, bursting clear with 1,000m to go after the pacemaker had stepped from the track.

He dropped Mottram within a lap and went on to win in a British allcomers record of 7:26.69 with Mottram second in 7:35.00.

"He ran a great race," said Mottram.

"He surprised me a little when he took off as we were already going pretty quickly.

"I knew he would try and shake me with five or six hundred to go but I was stretched a little already when he made his move and there is not much you can do.

"Obviously I'm disappointed, but we have another challenge in two weeks time in London (two miles) and I'm still really happy with where we are at."

"I knew he would try and shake me with five or six hundred to go but I was stretched a little already when he made his move and there is not much you can do."

This staement says it all. The thing that's so special about Bekele is that he does things on the track that others simpy can't do (e.g. "stroll through 2k in 5:03 and then go 58-57-27 to finish the last km).

I don't see any reason for Bekele not to run the 5000m / 10000m double in Osaka. At least the 5k might pose a challenge. Who has a prayer in the 10000m against a fit Bekele who can run 52 secs. for the last 400m?

Cheetah1977777 wrote:

"I knew he would try and shake me with five or six hundred to go but I was stretched a little already when he made his move and there is not much you can do."

This staement says it all. The thing that's so special about Bekele is that he does things on the track that others simpy can't do (e.g. "stroll through 2k in 5:03 and then go 58-57-27 to finish the last km).

I don't see any reason for Bekele not to run the 5000m / 10000m double in Osaka. At least the 5k might pose a challenge. Who has a prayer in the 10000m against a fit Bekele who can run 52 secs. for the last 400m?

We'll see won't we!

Bekele broke the 5km WR in 2004 and had El G pull him apart in a fast finish in Athens. The same happened the year before at the Worlds.

Bekele's tank is often left wanting when it really matters on the track.

And of course when the drug testers are standing waiting for him on the finish line.

do not forget that kenenisa run 10k with olympic reocrd and then run 5k for first round and face H ELG

There is no way KB would have beaten ELG in 2004. ELG was a miler and unless KB would have taken it out fast from the gun (10000m or no 10000m), he'd be blown away.

On the other hand, KB blows everybody away with his 53 last lap in a 10000m.

bengel

Auzzie-Auzzie-Auzzie!! OY-OY-OY!!!!!

from watching the race u could tell Mottram looked heavy leged from the start.i reckon he is in the middle of some heavy miles.He will be alot closer come World Champs.

you all knock him because he talks the talk but you have to remember he usually walks the walk.the sport needs people Like Craig.

this is a bunch of bs...he is heavy legged when bekele takes off because they had been running at around 60 sec per lap and that was too fast for mottram, plain and simplewhat did he run in the 2 mile not long ago, around 8:04, not that much different from what he ran last nighti thought the exact opposite - he looked like he was running fine in the beginning, i'll bet he was almost smug thinking to himself i'll just stay on his heels and blow by him with 200 to 400 to gobekele ran the legs right off of himbesides who is putting in serious mileage 5 weeks out from the world championships - come on

the sack monster wrote:

from watching the race u could tell Mottram looked heavy leged from the start.i reckon he is in the middle of some heavy miles.He will be alot closer come World Champs.

you all knock him because he talks the talk but you have to remember he usually walks the walk.the sport needs people Like Craig.

anEconomist wrote:

this is a bunch of bs...

besides who is putting in serious mileage 5 weeks out from the world championships - come on

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Actually Mottram runs fairly high mileage year round and eases off for one or two races. Last night he was running for the cash. Fastrack would have paid him handsomely for his services. It'll be the same in London and then we're on to Osaka where Mottram will ease off again.

the sack monster wrote:

you all knock him because he talks the talk but you have to remember he usually walks the walk.

Now being 14-1 against KB I don't think he "usually walks the walk". Unless his walk is somewhere behind Bekele's walk.

anEconomist wrote:

what did he run in the 2 mile not long ago, around 8:04, not that much different from what he ran last night

He ran 8:03, which by IAAF tables converts to around an 7:27....just a little different to 7:35 don't you think?

These guys PR's are 10-15 seconds off American Record in 5k. Ritz for excample isn't near braking 13. Maybe Webb, no one else even legat

"Maybe that's why he's hoping for a little bit of slower pace. He's obviously thinking about it. It's also his first race on the track so he's probably not as comfortable at that sort of speed as I might be at this point of the year."

Yeah, you were peobably right there craig!!

Where were his "balls" last night??

Teg ran 8:07.07, which ~7:32 in what was not the optimally paced race, plus he ran 3:34. Who knows what happened in the 5000, but he is on the doorstep of the 5000 AR. However, he will not get it this season unless plans change, as he is unlikely to get the AR in Osaka even if it were not a Championship race requiring a semi-final due to considerations of the weather. (That is his only planned 5000 left this season.)

Mottram got his ass handed to him by a doper. Everyone knows it, it's not easy running against these cheats.

Yep, Teg is on the cusp right now. Lagat and Webb, too, when they run with rabbits. Ritz or Solinsky could do it next year. If one of those five doesn't lower the mark by the end of next season . . . well, I'll have been wrong about something.

sizzle wrote:

If Mottram clicked today he still wouldn't have beaten Bekele to be fair, but why you guys get so pissed off by someone who helps the profile of athletics is beyond me!

Because they're self hating pussy white boys who don't have the smarts or courage to ask why they are so quick to make fun of their own - while no other group does this or is encouraged to this but their own. Why is that? Who has brainwashed these pussy boys?

If I loved myself more, would I love Craig Mottram more, or would I love a different track star who is like me in more ways than melanin levels?