Who counted Hall out when at Stanford

[B on 11/18/2003, ]Flagpole Willy wrote:
The fact that people mention people like Ryan Hall in the same category as Ritz shows that people aren't giving Ritz the respect he deserves. Ritz could whip Ryan Hall every day and twice on Sunday brother! Dathan Ritzenhein is the real deal, and he is a far better talent than anyone the US has produced in a long long time. Sage and Hall and and and and and...they all need to just accept that they can't compete with this guy when he's healthy.
In three or 4 years when Ritz runs 12:49.92 then I'll come back here and tell you I told you so.

Ok, Flagpole, you got my last post removed. Not sure why they deleted it, but the mods basically remove any post that one complains about, and we all know you complain a lot about posts about you. But this one is remaining, because I will e-mail wejo directly to get it re-instated if you try and have it removed. (and trust me, he said he would re-instate posts that really have no reason to be deleted, so don't waste your time bitchin' to the mods).

but back to what I wrote before:

1) You were as wrong as wrong can be about Ritz being "a far better talent than anyone the US has produced in a long long time," because the US has produced several distance runners as talented or more talented than him in just the last few years, AND....

2) it's now been over 3 years since you made your Ritz-will-break-12:50 guarantee. So this summer is when Ritz will break 12:50?? (you said he would do that in "three or 4 years") That's what you predicted. Wow, he's gonna smash his PR by 27 seconds, huh? That will be something! Are you still sticking with that prediction?

Sir Lance-alot wrote:
[B on 11/18/2003, ]Flagpole Willy wrote:
The fact that people mention people like Ryan Hall in the same category as Ritz shows that people aren't giving Ritz the respect he deserves. Ritz could whip Ryan Hall every day and twice on Sunday brother! Dathan Ritzenhein is the real deal, and he is a far better talent than anyone the US has produced in a long long time. Sage and Hall and and and and and...they all need to just accept that they can't compete with this guy when he's healthy.
In three or 4 years when Ritz runs 12:49.92 then I'll come back here and tell you I told you so.
Ok, Flagpole, you got my last post removed. Not sure why they deleted it, but the mods basically remove any post that one complains about, and we all know you complain a lot about posts about you. But this one is remaining, because I will e-mail wejo directly to get it re-instated if you try and have it removed. (and trust me, he said he would re-instate posts that really have no reason to be deleted, so don't waste your time bitchin' to the mods).
but back to what I wrote before:
1) You were as wrong as wrong can be about Ritz being "a far better talent than anyone the US has produced in a long long time," because the US has produced several distance runners as talented or more talented than him in just the last few years, AND....
2) it's now been over 3 years since you made your Ritz-will-break-12:50 guarantee. So this summer is when Ritz will break 12:50?? (you said he would do that in "three or 4 years") That's what you predicted. Wow, he's gonna smash his PR by 27 seconds, huh? That will be something! Are you still sticking with that prediction?

Sir Lance,

1) I did not report any posts, and I very very rarely report a post; I probably reported 2 posts MAX in all of 2006, and the only time I ever report a post is when someone threatens bodily harm to someone or something along those lines. I would never report a post based on someone's negative opinion about me. If the moderators deleted a post of yours, it was all their own doing. My hand to GOD.

2) You are correct that I was wrong that Ritz was more talented than anyone else (I always said Webb and KK were as talented). Hall and Tegenkamp have proven to be in that group. Fine. Great. I'm glad to have more people to watch set amazing records. To my credit though, the quote you made came from a thread in which I predicted Ritz would beat Hall to win the NCAA CC title that year. Ritz won.

3) Technically, Ritz has until November 18 to break 12:50. Do I think he will run 12:50 before November 18? No. I've always said that if Ritz moved up to the marathon that he would not break 12:50, and as we know, he has moved up to the marathon. But, just to show you that I'm a good sport, I'll even give you that since he hasn't yet abandoned the 5,000 that I can't quite really say he's moved up to the marathon just yet. He's just taking a little longer to get to where I think he'll end up in the 5,000 and the 10,000 than I thought he would.

Do I think Ritz has the TALENT to run a little more than 2 seconds faster per lap in a 5,000 than he has? Yes. Could Tegenkamp also do it? Perhaps. Hall? Unsure. Hall seems convinced that he's a longer distance guy, and maybe he's right.

I could very well be wrong about Ritz. That's ok. I don't mind being wrong.

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