morons....all involved
Hold Your Wee for a Wii...lol!!!
andre dawson wrote:
morons....all involved
You must be delightful in person.
What do you think they aren't morons?
Lost Cause wrote:
What do you think they aren't morons?
I don't know them. Apparently you've never listened to the radio and like to play Monday morning quarterback as well.
For all I know that woman could have been trying to win a Wii for her kid, since there still hard to find, and she died as result. She probably didn't think attempting the contest could be fatal and I'd rather not belittle her intelligence without knowing much about the case.
i suppose as runners we may be more aware of the dangers of excessive water consumption - we hear about runners, usually marathoners, dying from such a condition every couple of years or so - but are people really so stupid as to think this is a good idea?
i can believe a person engaging in this contest not knowing the serious danger involved, but i'd like to know what this radio station was thinking holding this contest. apparently no one thought to ask a lawyer or something whether this was a good idea. they're going to be paying a whole lot of money for this one. and i imagine quite a few people will be losing their job.
I think the reference was more to the radio station personnel and not her. But she wasn't the brightest either. Yes that shows very little respect and probably shouldn't be said (yet) but that's the facts. I have read much about this story since I live in Sacramento where the contest was held. Yes she was trying to win for her kid. They had a nurse/listener call in and tell them it was dangerous. Another guy was ill as well but he quit before she did. She didn't win either she got second which was Justin Timberlake tickets.
I don't know why in this day and age of lawsuits anyone would do anything involving the human body. If it's throwing up, water consumption, eating contest, etc. it doesn't matter it's a bad idea.
chuck d wrote:
i suppose as runners we may be more aware of the dangers of excessive water consumption - we hear about runners, usually marathoners, dying from such a condition every couple of years or so
There was also a hazing incident where someone died from this in Chico, CA which isn't far from Sacramento. It's also been on CSI.
Yep, there's gonna be a BIIIIIIIGGGGGG lawsuit on this one. You know it.
if you get a good enough release, inform people of the risks, and do other things (doctor on premises), you can do some of that stuff. eating contests aren't nearly as likely to end in death as a water drinking contest. but, you're right, it's all pretty stupid. somebody wasn't thinking this one through.
chuck d wrote:
i suppose as runners we may be more aware of the dangers of excessive water consumption - we hear about runners, usually marathoners, dying from such a condition every couple of years or so - but are people really so stupid as to think this is a good idea?
i can believe a person engaging in this contest not knowing the serious danger involved, but i'd like to know what this radio station was thinking holding this contest. apparently no one thought to ask a lawyer or something whether this was a good idea. they're going to be paying a whole lot of money for this one. and i imagine quite a few people will be losing their job.
The history of hyponatremia among marathoners may well be what sinks this radio station. If the station didn't take the same precautions that marathon organizers routinely take (and they almost certainly did not), as far as having medical staff and other staff trained to spot signs of hyponatremia, then they could easily be found negligent, regardless of any kind of waiver the contestants signed. A standard does exist, and they didn't meet it.
There is no waiver that a participant could sign that will stand up in court if it can be shown that information about hypernatremia is easily found and availabel and could have been prevented had precautions been taken. I know it is early and that there will be an investigation and legal suit brought, but the risk should have been known. I work in a research setting with human subjects, and there are certain kinds of information you must give people in order to get informaed consent, one of the most significant being a description of risk. If they did not mention this as a risk, they have a real problem on their hands. They cannot use a blanket medical risk as a substitute.
The average person does not know you can die from drinking too much water. Runners know, and exercise physiologists and physicians, but not too many others.
If the radio station would have known about the risks I doubt they would have had the contest much less inform the participants.
Lost Cause wrote:
If the radio station would have known about the risks I doubt they would have had the contest much less inform the participants.
But it will likely be shown that the station should have known; that anyone who is
a) Holding a water-drinking contest
and
b) Not a negligent idiot
would and should easily find this information. I think, if not for the standard set by race organizers, they could argue that hyponatremia is an obscure condition that they couldn't reasonably be expected to know about. As it stands, though, a simple Google search would have told them everything, and they either failed to do a search, or ignored what it told them. They're deservedly screwed either way, in my admittedly non-judicial opinion.
and I agree they should of. I just checked their website and one of the DJs in question is running with Team in Training. Not that would make her any more informed because those type usually have never read anything about a Marathon but just throwing it out there.
John Geary, vice president and marketing manager for Entercom Sacramento, the station's owner, said station personnel were stunned when they heard of Strange's death.
"We are awaiting information that will help explain how this tragic event occurred," he said.
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I'm not a big fan of lawsuits or trial lawyers, but these dolts need to get wacked hard.
Maybe next week they will have people come in and cut off a finger and see how long they bleed for a PS3.
As a resident of the Sacramento area, I am appalled that this contest took place.
The radio station will pay dearly for this one, and they deserve it.
On a lighter note, the station hosting the contest (107.9 "the End") is a load of garbage. All they play is top-40 junk, and I wouldn't mind seeing them drop off the dial.
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