Klecker FURIOUS with Kincaid

ON upset because someone came to race and disrupt their little perfect pace party. This is why they don’t do well in championships. They don’t know how to race unless they have perfect weather (indoors if they can ) and a trove of their pacers. Good on Kincaid and McColgan for being party poopers. They came to race.

Hoare led the first 15
Klecker the next 8
Woody the last 2

Unless there was an agreement before the race to share pacing duties after Hoare stepped off, Klecker has nobody to be upset with but himself. It's not like Woody kicked by him with 100 meters to go.

Klecker had the perfect lead-out the last two laps, but Woody just ran away from him.

Was there prize money for the win....if not who cares who won this race. The females ran out of their minds!

Stop. They were paced (poorly, I might add) for over half the race. Kincaid even tried to take the lead with a little less than a mile left. You and klecker both have no reason to cry.

Doesn’t seem like you watched the race that the rest of us watched.

Idk about you all, but if I’m doing a workout that involves planned trading leads, then the leader moves outside. Lot easier to pass. Klecker could have easily done this. Slowed a hair and tuck in behind.

This is going to turn into Bowerman and On doing there own group time trials in the future and I wouldn't blame them. If it's all about time anyways then why set other people up to run fast when you have the people to do it yourselves?

Olli paced Klecker, Andrews paced Monson, Woody (then Bowerman) paced Fisher last year. Cranny only had a pacer for 3k. They can do this at home.

But he was 4 min faster than meb at the time

Maybe Klecker should be better at running. Not woody’s problem US runners are terrible

Stop perpetuating this lie. Meb kincaided Rupp as long as he could until Galen dropped him. Seriously, go watch the race.

Also want to point out that this is different from the women's race. Both Monson and McColgan were well inside the Olympic standard so it was a pure race after that, both going for national records with McColgan's the more challenging target of sub-30:01.

For Klecker and Kincaid, this was a chance to get OLY standard. They're both healthy and in shape. Who knows if they'll be able to say the same later in the year or early next year. I think that's why Klecker was annoyed. If he'd have been out-kicked but hot the OLY standard, I think he'd be fine with it. This is a meet aimed at records and standards, it's not a prestigious race, winning it doesn't give much, if any, clout.

It seems like many people here have never raced a 10k before. If I'm reading this right, Klecker took the lead around 6000m, with Kincaid attempting to pass at 8400m.

Are you guys not aware that that stretch -- 6k to 8.5ish kilos -- is probably the absolute hardest of the race? You're far enough into the race to be hurting, but still far from the finish. Yes, Kincaid did not break any rules, but just sitting on someone for over six minutes during the hardest stretch of the race is pretty gutless nonetheless.

And if you're going to sit on someone like that, at least don't clip them!

Exactly right. I was thrilled for McColgan. ON should start taking some humble pills including the rabbit that couldn’t do a good job. Waiting for one of them to get busted down the road. That would be a kicker (no pun intended)

This thread is pure LRC! How fun to wake up to a few laughs on a Sunday morning.

Ollie hoare is the reigning commonwealth games champion. Nuguse just beat Katir on the European circuit. Those are just 2 that come to mind. Monson seems to win almost every race she’s in

I'd be surprised if Monson had any complaints. She just reduced her PB by 48 seconds, got the national record, and the Olympic standard. That's a good night's work. She got out-kicked but it was by a lot, it's not like this was close down to the line - McColgan put 3 seconds into her over one lap. I also don't think Monson runs 30:03 if McColgan isn't in that race. Monson did a lot of work from the front but everyone who has ever raced knows there's some benefit to having someone on your shoulder, you work harder. If Monson had to solo that after 5k, I think she runs around 30:15. Both Elise Cranny and Eilish McColgan have talked about how hard they found it to solo to 30:14 and 30:19 respectively last year.

OAC have, collectively, had a great early season. Most importantly, they've got out there and raced a lot. I think they should be applauded for that, it's what we all want, right?

This. If Klecker wants to beat Kincaid, he's gotta do it by leading and taking the kick out of Kincaid's legs, he just doesn't have the speed to outkick Woody. I think even Grant understands this and respects Woody's speed enough to run hard from the gun. However, it seems like Woody is just the better runner so I don't think it matters what strategy Klecker tries.

Anyways, they both got under the standard, so really Klecker is just being butthurt that he lost. Sure it would be nice of Woody to eat some wind for a while, but he really doesn't owe that to Klecker either.