China COVID protests

quarantines, curfews, lockdowns and forced closures were unethical and cruel wherever they were implemented around the world. China is not the only country that caused suffering and deaths with bad Covid policy. I'm not saying this is the case with you OP, but I am confused as to how the world has found the energy to criticize China when they could not find that energy for their own governments.

yes western societies were very weak when it came to letting their governments control their lives. any measures imposed in public areas should have been optional and people who chose not to get vaccines should not have been discriminated against. all semblance of freedom and democracy was lost. governments should not be allowed to have that sort of draconian reach over the people who pay their wages.

It's even more crazy that the CCP has been welding apartment exits shut. An apartment fire killed a bunch of people because no one could get out. The fire was likely started by the CCP intentionally.

So crazy! I thought Apple was "diverse" and "caring" and in some ways even "woke" -- I mean look at their Leadership team!

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Most other countries didn't use force the way China has to enforce lockdowns. China welded people's doors shut and forced them into confinement. And, they're still doing it all today.

The problem in China is not its as much its zero COVID policy as it is that the CCP has used the COVID measures as a pretext for a broad crackdown on dissent and to enforce much more strict control over its population. The protests are being called the "white paper" protests because people are marching with blank pieces of paper which symbolizes the CCP's strict crackdown on any dissent on the internet. People are coming to realize that the COVID measures have been as much about having the CCP track your every movement to make sure you aren't engaging in any prohibited political activities as it is about trying to stop the spread of the virus. And when there have been large outbreaks, it becomes impossible for the CCP to claim that all the strict COVID controls are necessary to stop the virus. The sad reality is that China's zero COVID policy is simply an impossibility due to the fact that the rest of the world has chosen to vaccinate and end most restrictions. But China's vax program has relied on the crappy Sinovac COVID vaccine and will not import mRNA or other better Western vaxes. So, loosening restrictions in China will come with very large outbreaks and a stress on the health system that may cause further political turmoil. Thus, China is just going to do what it has always done. Stay the course and smash any dissent.

Wow lockdown protesters?? I didn't realize China had so many M.A.G.A. Republicans!

I have covid right now. I only got tested because my grandparents tested positive the day after thanksgiving and I wanted to do the 'right' thing and avoid people if I actually had it. I had a cold last month and can say I felt worse last month than I do right now. I got the original double dose of vaccination in March 2021 but no boosters because the second dose gave me a 102 degree fever and made me vomit a few times. So far my reaction to the vaccine was way worse than actually having covid almost two years later. My grandparents who have it now are in their 80's and one of them threw up once a couple nights ago but both are better now last I heard. Doing lock downs for this would do way more harm than good.

Don't forget that millions of people were dying from covid. Post-vaccine, I totally agree. Comparing the west to China today is nonsense.

Just a bunch of fringe truck drivers with unacceptable views.

Diversity for thee but not for me

What you see in communist China is quietly happening on a much lighter scale in the USA. Excessive government control, manipulation, censorship of rebels and rebellious efforts, deeming lies as truth and truth as lies or misinformation, narrative control and agendas with press agencies who are paid off by certain entities, attacking the reputation any threat to the matrix, carefully control the flow of "information" to brainwash. Time to wake up.

this might be the most asinine and myopic post I've ever seen on LR (which is saying something). yeah lets base health policy around one rando on the internet. BTW- your vax likely helped you.

But but... my Iphone!

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Chinese state TV cuts shots of mask-free World Cup fans

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That’s one way to tackle it. Chinese TV has been cutting close-up shots of mask-free World Cup soccer fans to avoid angry comparisons with the strict “zero-COVID” clampdowns behin…

Link:nypost.com/2022/11/28/chinese-state-tv...

We're the most propaganda believing suckers on the planet. It's sad.

The Chinese gov't is a terrorist mafia-like organization. Human suffering means nothing to them as long as its not them and they control wealth and power. Worst kind of human beings on the planet.

Here's the thing. When the government outright lies for two years about something you are going to believe your own eyes.

By this time, everyone personally knows dozens, if not hundreds of folks who have had covid and/or the vaccines, so they are drawing their own conclusions. Booster vaccine rates and vaccination rates for kids are ridiculously low.

Bringing it to the thread title. This is probably a factor in what is taking place in China. They have a stranglehold on communications so can keep most problems under wraps. However, at this point, all Chinese personally likely know dozens, if not hundreds, who have faced lock downs and other mistreatment and have had covid (or at least think they did, who in their right mind would get tested if they could in any way avoid it).

So many folks have simultaneously made the calculation that the chance of being sent to a concentration camp for covid is at this point less than the chance of being sent to a concentration camp for protesting.

We'll see.

Has anyone considered that the Chinese government knows something? Had some of those folks locked inside homes and burned been exposed to some other virus, a virus so insidious the entire planet might be in jeopardy?

What evil has the Chinese government unleashed now?

Bro, I don't know about you but I was not locked in my house during any COVID "lockdowns". Its pretty absurd to compare shutting business and asking people to not congregate in large groups, wear masks and social distance to what China has been doing to their citizens.

My biggest gripe was with our school district going fully remote for nearly 1 and half years of school. Big mistake.