Virginia Walmart MASS Shooting Tonight

You are dumb wrote:

The Hispanic rate is basically the US average (in fact, it’s a tiny bit lower). It’s been going down though, and I’m sure it’ll keep going down.

It’s just the sky high black crime that inflates statistics.

mid D guy wrote:

Ok, so, just to clarify, your argument is that the anomaly of the US with respect to murder rates has nothing to do with number of guns. Given that overall education, mental health, poverty and general crime levels are comparable between the US and other developed countries, the reasons or the large difference in homicide rate is that in the US there are a lot of people that are black.
Correct?

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

mid D guy wrote:

Ok, so, just to clarify, your argument is that the anomaly of the US with respect to murder rates has nothing to do with number of guns. Given that overall education, mental health, poverty and general crime levels are comparable between the US and other developed countries, the reasons or the large difference in homicide rate is that in the US there are a lot of people that are black.
Correct?

The "anomaly" you keep referring to doesn't exist. Comparing a racially diverse country to lily white European countries is absurd.

If you want to compare something similar compare lily white north eastern states to lily white western european countries.

How Ironic wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

If you restrict access then the 18-49yr old white male who tend to commit these acts will have a much harder time committing them. I don't see the typical mass shooter taking the effort to seek the black market. Your drug dealers and gang bangers probably will still find a way to get guns though.

Alan

Gang bangers and drug dealers aren't the ones committing mass shootings of this style. It's usually a caucasian. Nice try.

lol right wingers wrote:

Xxxer wrote:

This will never end because of the 2nd Amendment. IF anyone cares about their fellow humans, the 2nd Amendment needs to be abolished. Hard truth for some of you.

Newsflash, right wingers have as much value for human life as antivaxxers do for vaccines. Besides, as long as these tragedies continue to happen, right wingers think they're owning the libs. Nothing supersedes owning the libs for right wingers. We will continue to see mass shootings as a result. Keep taking that sweet NRA blood money right wingers. We're waiting for your thoughts and prayers!

mid D guy wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

The "anomaly" you keep referring to doesn't exist. Comparing a racially diverse country to lily white European countries is absurd.

If you want to compare something similar compare lily white north eastern states to lily white western european countries.

OK, so I cannot compare the US to other developed countries because in the US there are a lot of black people and black people commits lots of crimes. Correct?

How many in Chicago? wrote:

you can still compare the rates - you just have to discount that percentage of the population.

To use another example, the racial income gaps virtually disappear when you adjust for IQ.

Runningart2004 wrote:

How Ironic wrote:

Gang bangers and drug dealers aren't the ones committing mass shootings of this style. It's usually a caucasian. Nice try.

That's...exactly...what....I....said.....

It is also still easy for a gang banger or drug dealer to go to Walmart or Gun Show and grab a pistol.

Alan

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

How many in Chicago? wrote:

you can still compare the rates - you just have to discount that percentage of the population.

To use another example, the racial income gaps virtually disappear when you adjust for IQ.

The crime disparity between the races virtually disappears when you adjust for broken homes as well.

It's not a coincidence that the group with the highest prevalence of broken homes is worst off when it comes to poverty and criminality.

How Ironic wrote:

econ 102 wrote:

His point is that stricter gun laws would help prevent mass shootings.

Perhaps, but I see something else in that post.

mid D guy wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

The crime disparity between the races virtually disappears when you adjust for broken homes as well.

It's not a coincidence that the group with the highest prevalence of broken homes is worst off when it comes to poverty and criminality.

OK. To summarize, in the US there are lot of homicides because there are a lot of dysfunctional families living in poverty, and these people, that happen to be disproportionally black, are more likely to commit crimes.
The relative number of dysfunctional families living in poverty in the US, however, is not very different from that in the UK or France or many other European countries. How do you explain that the poor people living in broken homes in the US commits murders at a rate that is 5-6 times higher than other countries?