Vandegrift is missing 10:00 3200 guy Schick
Vandegrift is missing 10:00 3200 guy Schick
I wonder if they will find a 5th when Schick gets back. Maybe Rayson who ran a 16:21 freshman year. He will be a senior this year
Wait….Vandegrift will actually have lots of talent back for 2023 as well.
16:12 5k - c/o 2024
16:36 5k - 2025
16:55/10:00- 2024
9:56 3k - 2026
Lots of time to find a number 5.
Clute got a solid pack of 5.
HSJ sat their top 4 out
Flower Mound’s success depends on whether they have a good 4/5 or not. If not, Southlake will be better.
I'm pretty analytical, but don't know how to calculate what will carry more weight, the #1-3 or the #4-5. You may also get different results in a small meet vs. state meet.
So 2021 State Flower Mound had 4-9-15-43-70 points taking out Seniors = 141. Southlake 20-24-27-46-49 = 166.
In that sense Flower Mound looks like the favorite, but I think it will be closer than that. Will the performance of Humphries sisters and Fox be impacted at all without Natalie Cook there to push in practice and races? There also isn't much potential for improvement in the points top 3 at Flower Mound. I think all 5 spots Southlake can see big improvement.
Fast teams at Southlake 3200 Saturday! Listed with preseason rankings.
Carroll High School - Girls 6A #2 Boys 6A #1
Colleyville Heritage - Girls 5A #3
Denton High - Boys 5A #2
Flower Mound - Girls 6A #1 Boys 6A #9
Grapevine - Girls 5A #4 Boys 5A #1
For the Southlake 3200 Flower Mound used very aggressive made up times except for Humphries sisters vs. Southlake using real times. Go through the list, everyone like 20-40 seconds faster than their PR's. Pathetic, they think there are no consequences? My daughter is first one out of the Championship heat using a real time that is faster than PR's of 5 of the Flower Mound girls in the Championship heat. Coaches should be on the same page, if you are using made up hopeful times then everyone should, there is a good chance my daughter breaks her 3200 PR by over 10 seconds. 2 weeks ago she broke her 1600 PR by 7 seconds when it was 92 degrees.
Wow Grapevine has a guy at the same level as Rayon. Apparently he’s a transfer from Lubbock. He’s a junior.
With this transfer they might be challenging for another 5A title if their 3-4-5 step up.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that happens though. Grapevine had lots of seniors in 2018 and they still reloaded after that.
This year Grapevine is looking to have just 2 seniors on varsity (at the most) so expect next year to be really good for them, competing with Lucas Lovejoy.
Southlake Carroll has Hill, Golomb, and Dylan Fisher missing again.
Flower Mound has 10:09 / 10:31 guys missing (Patel / Lyda)
And also has Samantha Fox missing
Flower Mound’s 3/4th fastest girl seeds are 11:10 and 11:15. Without Fox. Would have been 4th and 5th seed without her. Not bad actually.
As I posted the seed times by Flower Mound past Humphries are aggressive, but we’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. after Saturday’s race I will post a comparison of how Southlake and Flower Mound raced vs their seed times. I can tell you all if Southlake’s are real PR’s from Spring and 75% of them are running faster now.
Nonsenior SLC boys seeds:
Alvarez - 9:30 - 11
Troutman - 9:36 - 11
Severson - 9:39 - 10
Leonard - 9:40 - 9
Bullard - 9:50 - 10
Van De Berghe - 9:54 - 11
There’s also 11th grader Golomb who ran a 9:32 last spring.
This is a solid top 7 for next year. Them and Jesuit LA should go 1/2 at NXN in 2023 again.
3 of those guys are back for 2024. Just need to find 2 more.
I find this post so funny for so many reasons. The first one is you ridiculing the humphries because they didn’t run a 32 last year so they don’t have any good 32 times. Believe it or not, coaches talk. And if Leonard really wanted them to put in their actually PR’s he would of changed it to them. What’s also funny is that Sam Humphries 32 time is real. Nicole’s is a hand entered one because she didn’t run the 32 last season. Someone seems a little butthurt that nic ran their daughters 32 time an entire year earlier. Don’t forget to mention about how both of them have at least 30 seconds on any Southlake girl in the 5k, just on the track. You probably don’t even want to check actual courses. All this complaining on letsrun yet someone still hasn’t talked to leonard? Go have fun with that conversation while your washed up carroll girls get ready to get killed by the humphries “fake times”. Idk if u know this but time trials also exist.
Don’t forget to mention the 5:30 7th grader that flomo now has as a freshman. Faster than your kid and hasn’t even started high school.
I can tell the intellect of the person I’m dealing with here. my posts you quoted says “except for Humphries” and next one says “beyond Humphries”. Also earlier in the thread I list Flower Mounds #1-3 faster than Southlake’s #1 based on last years times. What school district did you come from that your reading comprehension is so bad? Any bets the difference in actual vs. seed times Saturday Southlake vs. Flower Mound?
excrosscoach wrote:
Don’t forget to mention the 5:30 7th grader that flomo now has as a freshman. Faster than your kid and hasn’t even started high school.
Is she in this race?
I assume not because the fastest freshman Flower Mound girl seed is 12:55.
5:30 as a 7th grader would put her in the top 7 for FM at least.
it’s odd how this thread has had so many replies but barely any talk about how the woodlands poses a real threat to southlake this year? southlake’s boys have been riddled with injuries and the woodlands is stronger than ever before. it’ll be a rude awakening for southlake once they lose at state
Well SLC returns their 1-6, and the depth on that team is out of this world. So if someone from SLC is injured, there will be someone else that’s gonna step up.
I’m actually curious where a team of SLC’s 8-14th runners would be ranked in comparison to 6A’s varsity teams.
Let’s say Hill,Golomb,Fisher,Cantu,Alvarez,Troutman, and Freeman are their top 7 this year,
the seed times of their 8-14 guys are:
Dylan Fisher (not in this race but 9:47 in the 3200 last spring)
Severson - 9:39 seed
Litwin - 9:39 seed
Ortiz- 9:40 seed
Reddy - 9:40 seed
Leonard - 9:40 seed
Bullard - 9:50 seed
Van de berghe - 9:54 seed
Jacob Freeman (I think he might go to SLC, idk) - 9:45 in the 3200 last spring
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