With vaccines widely available, why are people freaking out about the new South African Covid variant?

At this point it's clear this is hysteria and control. I'm fully vaxxed and everything so I'm not coming at this from any political angle.

Strangeee3 wrote:

At this point it's clear this is hysteria and control. I'm fully vaxxed and everything so I'm not coming at this from any political angle.

Agreed.

lmfao wrote:

Strangeee3 wrote:

At this point it's clear this is hysteria and control. I'm fully vaxxed and everything so I'm not coming at this from any political angle.

Agreed.

So how do you separate the politics from the hysteria and control?

You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

Trollometry wrote:

lmfao wrote:

Agreed.

So how do you separate the politics from the hysteria and control?

You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

You can't separate politics as that's the driving force. My comment was more that I do not have strong political beliefs, but it's clear at this point it's just controlling people.

Another one bits the dust.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/01/marcus-lamb-covid-19-daystar-christian-tv-network-dies

“So how do you separate the politics from the hysteria and control?”

This entire situation is politics, simply resolved by removing any discussion about mandates. Not a single thing should be mandated. Not vaccines for jobs. Not masks. Nor children. Not travel. Not a single thing related to this virus should be mandated.

It does not do anybody any good, as related to their health for someone else to be vaccinated or not. Those pushing have hit their limit. They can have their World but they cannot have ours. It’s time to waive the white flag, go enjoy your life with those who only think like you. Wish granted.

Hopefully this speedy variant infects everyone on earth in the next week or two, and we can simply move on.

The problem with Covid prior to this variant is that it's too dang slow.

The mutational profile of Omicron -suggests- it could evade existing immunity (from both vaccines and prior infection) much more than other strains. The magnitude of this evasion remains to be seen.

That's why it's so concerning. South Africa is like >80% prior infected with COVID based on excess death back-calculations so if it's spreading that quickly in such an 'immune' population then there's likely some degree of immune evasion!

So much stuff still to be confirmed though. Part of the 'panic' is just over the uncertainty and fog of war.

Marcus died a free man the choice was his to make. Compare that with Abo&*tions where a baby born with a heartbeat is cut up and dropped in the trash. Who's choice?

Harambe wrote:

The mutational profile of Omicron -suggests- it could evade existing immunity (from both vaccines and prior infection) much more than other strains. The magnitude of this evasion remains to be seen.

That's why it's so concerning. South Africa is like >80% prior infected with COVID based on excess death back-calculations so if it's spreading that quickly in such an 'immune' population then there's likely some degree of immune evasion!

So much stuff still to be confirmed though. Part of the 'panic' is just over the uncertainty and fog of war.

Make appointments for 3 more shots. That will bring you to 6 in 14 months. The US Government gets a free shot when you are on shot number 10. Kind of like a coffee shop.

As of October:

10,857 Fully Vaccinated Americans Have Died Of COVID-19; 30,000 Hospitalized

All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.

Harambe wrote:

The mutational profile of Omicron -suggests- it could evade existing immunity (from both vaccines and prior infection) much more than other strains. The magnitude of this evasion remains to be seen.

That's why it's so concerning. South Africa is like >80% prior infected with COVID based on excess death back-calculations so if it's spreading that quickly in such an 'immune' population then there's likely some degree of immune evasion!

So much stuff still to be confirmed though. Part of the 'panic' is just over the uncertainty and fog of war.

Who cares? Mild symptoms being reported. But keep fearmongering.

And yes I am vaxxed for the alpha/delta. So don't puff up your chest with any anti-vax comments.

You won't get an answer wrote:

Harambe wrote:

The mutational profile of Omicron -suggests- it could evade existing immunity (from both vaccines and prior infection) much more than other strains. The magnitude of this evasion remains to be seen.

That's why it's so concerning. South Africa is like >80% prior infected with COVID based on excess death back-calculations so if it's spreading that quickly in such an 'immune' population then there's likely some degree of immune evasion!

So much stuff still to be confirmed though. Part of the 'panic' is just over the uncertainty and fog of war.

Who cares? Mild symptoms being reported. But keep fearmongering.

And yes I am vaxxed for the alpha/delta. So don't puff up your chest with any anti-vax comments.

You are vaxxed for Delta? Were you in a trial or something, because the delta vaxxes are not out of the trials stage yet.

joed|rtae wrote:

You won't get an answer wrote:

Who cares? Mild symptoms being reported. But keep fearmongering.

And yes I am vaxxed for the alpha/delta. So don't puff up your chest with any anti-vax comments.

You are vaxxed for Delta? Were you in a trial or something, because the delta vaxxes are not out of the trials stage yet.

Whatever, I just meant I got the vax that still 'works' against Delta. I don't obsess over this thing on either side like most of you. I just got my jab and am ready to move on. No more masks, no more variant panic, no more restrictions.

You won't get an answer wrote:

Harambe wrote:

The mutational profile of Omicron -suggests- it could evade existing immunity (from both vaccines and prior infection) much more than other strains. The magnitude of this evasion remains to be seen.

That's why it's so concerning. South Africa is like >80% prior infected with COVID based on excess death back-calculations so if it's spreading that quickly in such an 'immune' population then there's likely some degree of immune evasion!

So much stuff still to be confirmed though. Part of the 'panic' is just over the uncertainty and fog of war.

Who cares? Mild symptoms being reported. But keep fearmongering.

And yes I am vaxxed for the alpha/delta. So don't puff up your chest with any anti-vax comments.

I'm not fearmongering, I am explaining why people are concerned. There's a still a TON we don't know. Mild symptoms are common for all COVID strains. Hospitalization rates in South Africa are rising despite high rates of infection-driven immunity down there (>80% infected by some metrics).

It could be no big deal/the same as Delta. It's good to keep an eye on.

Harambe wrote:

Hospitalization rates in South Africa are rising despite high rates of infection-driven immunity down there (>80% infected by some metrics).

It could be no big deal/the same as Delta. It's good to keep an eye on.

Where do you get that 80% figure from? You are usually so rational.

Yes, SA's numbers are under reported because of lower testing rates, but if you even had 30%, their hospitals would be over run and they will be piling bodies up

I actually speak from real kbnowledge on SA, and of South Africans

“I'm not fearmongering, I am explaining why people are concerned.”

People are concerned because, once again, the first reported case in the US was a fully vaccinated person. Double shot and a booster and wah la, OMNICRON. You folks are boxed into lunacy. This new bio weapon mutation looks to be primarily forming within vaccinated folks. It’s not fearmongering. It is what it is. New rules here pseudo-scientists.