With vaccines widely available, why are people freaking out about the new South African Covid variant?

rojo wrote:

I just got back from my 7 pm et appointment for my booster shot. I'm pumped as I always wanted Moderna and finally got it (Pfizer on April 10 and May 1). At the pharmacy, people were joking about how we are all gonna die due to the SA variant.

But then it hit me, "If the vaccines work, why in the hell are we worried about some variant?"

Yes, this is the million dollar question I can’t really get a straight answer to.

FFS Rojo, put on your thinking cap and answer your own question. Or read up on why. Or something.

I'll take a shot at this.. There are still like 40% of Americans who aren't vax'd yet.. not to mention the massive numbers world-wide who aren't. Next, they still don't know how effective the vaccines will be against this new variant. As we allow the spread to continue as it is, it also mutates more easily. It'd be VERY helpful if EVERYONE got vax'd and if we could get the rest of the world (including developing countries) on board.

rojo wrote:

I just got back from my 7 pm et appointment for my booster shot. I'm pumped as I always wanted Moderna and finally got it (Pfizer on April 10 and May 1). At the pharmacy, people were joking about how we are all gonna die due to the SA variant.

But then it hit me, "If the vaccines work, why in the hell are we worried about some variant?"

Rojo just read one article on it and you should see what the concerns are over. This thread should be deleted

It's not clear how well current vaccines will hold up against new and emerging variants. They were developed against the original strain, which has since all but faded into obsolescence. We got lucky that the mRNAs conferred some degree of protection against serious illness with Delta, but it wasn't a guarantee.

These are some good waves they can ride them for a while.

rojo wrote:

I just got back from my 7 pm et appointment for my booster shot. I'm pumped as I always wanted Moderna and finally got it (Pfizer on April 10 and May 1). At the pharmacy, people were joking about how we are all gonna die due to the SA variant.

But then it hit me, "If the vaccines work, why in the hell are we worried about some variant?"

Time to end the routine, it is a routine right?

GORP wrote:

I'll take a shot at this.. There are still like 40% of Americans who aren't vax'd yet.. not to mention the massive numbers world-wide who aren't. Next, they still don't know how effective the vaccines will be against this new variant. As we allow the spread to continue as it is, it also mutates more easily. It'd be VERY helpful if EVERYONE got vax'd and if we could get the rest of the world (including developing countries) on board.

In America everyone who wants the vaccine can get the vaccine (and the booster) for free and with relatively little effort. All the numbers I’ve seen have shown the vaccine something like 99.99%+ effective against Covid related fatalities and hospitalizations.

We are at the point if personal responsibility. If you don’t want the vaccine that is your right & choice but there may be some consequences to your health.

Something about someone saying they feel "pumped" about getting a booster because they always wanted moderna sounds so funny to me. It's like something i imagine would be in a phoney, cheesy commercial where people act ecstatic about mundane things.

The only people "freaked out" are the recipients of the "vaccines"--because they are "vaxxed" and because the "vaccines"are widely available.

Rojo how about you let us know when the penny drops for you?

Genuinely fascinated to see how long this will take.

The Omicron variant is the most mutated variant yet, and it is not apparent how the current vaccines will work. The Alpha variant had 3 variations of the spike protein, the Delta had 8, and the Omicron has 15 variations, there also other changes/mutations besides the spike protein. It appears to be even more contagious than Delta and it is unknown how it will affect severity of illness. The vaccine companies can of course adjust their vaccines if necessary. It is unknown how well the current vaccines will work. They may be effective, somewhat effective, or not very effective.

Don't you get it Rojo? COVID hysteria never ends. It's all about control. They want you scared so you keep buying vaccines forever. That's money for them. Governments worldwide want to scare their citizens to gain more power over them. If you look at east Australia they're basically on curfew all the time and can't go past 3 miles of their house. They keep trying to scare us saying that we need the law to protect ourselves from... ourselves. For example, Australia gave up their right to bear arms and now when tons of their citizens are locked up and surveilled they can't do anything about it. Luckily the US constitution is very strong and is protecting our rights, but we're not too far from becoming Venezuela.

#ChristianityRocks

The vaccines don't work. If you were told that a 95% effective cure for Cancer had been invented, then, next year Cancer deaths are the same number as every year, you would be skeptical of said "cure." Also note that we went 1 year without the virus mutating to a more transmissable form, then vaccines roll out and *BOOM* we get 2 mutations in a half year.

GORP wrote:

I'll take a shot at this.. There are still like 40% of Americans who aren't vax'd yet.. not to mention the massive numbers world-wide who aren't. Next, they still don't know how effective the vaccines will be against this new variant. As we allow the spread to continue as it is, it also mutates more easily. It'd be VERY helpful if EVERYONE got vax'd and if we could get the rest of the world (including developing countries) on board.

Maybe you should take another shot at this? With pretty much 80% of ireland vaxxed they're having out of control covid cases. Perhaps the vaccines dont work against any variant? Or are they lowering the immune system so much that people are getting sick more easily?

rojo wrote:

I just got back from my 7 pm et appointment for my booster shot. I'm pumped as I always wanted Moderna and finally got it (Pfizer on April 10 and May 1). At the pharmacy, people were joking about how we are all gonna die due to the SA variant.

But then it hit me, "If the vaccines work, why in the hell are we worried about some variant?"

I think a lot of people underestimated the delta variant, and maybe they're overestimating the xi variant (or "omicron" as the they're trying to call it) as a result. In the next couple weeks we'll see whether it evades immunity from the vaccines in SA or rips through highly vaccinated nations in Europe.

Sham 69 wrote:

Don't you get it Rojo? COVID hysteria never ends. It's all about control. They want you scared so you keep buying vaccines forever. That's money for them. Governments worldwide want to scare their citizens to gain more power over them. If you look at east Australia they're basically on curfew all the time and can't go past 3 miles of their house. They keep trying to scare us saying that we need the law to protect ourselves from... ourselves. For example, Australia gave up their right to bear arms and now when tons of their citizens are locked up and surveilled they can't do anything about it. Luckily the US constitution is very strong and is protecting our rights, but we're not too far from becoming Venezuela.

#ChristianityRocks

Yes I get what you are saying. But even if the vaccines don't work lets say either long-term or against this variant, then we might as well face it. I'm not willing to try to hide for 40 years. Or do we thinj in 5 years there would be better treatments?

co co covid wrote:

GORP wrote:

I'll take a shot at this.. There are still like 40% of Americans who aren't vax'd yet.. not to mention the massive numbers world-wide who aren't. Next, they still don't know how effective the vaccines will be against this new variant. As we allow the spread to continue as it is, it also mutates more easily. It'd be VERY helpful if EVERYONE got vax'd and if we could get the rest of the world (including developing countries) on board.

Maybe you should take another shot at this? With pretty much 80% of ireland vaxxed they're having out of control covid cases. Perhaps the vaccines dont work against any variant? Or are they lowering the immune system so much that people are getting sick more easily?

Hmmmm, 80% over 18 years of age. Ireland has a large young population.

Why don’t you try again. Also death rates in Ireland have been far better than the US.