I hate to see Idaho fail like this

[quote]wazzu1452 wrote:

Progressive Pansy: "Idaho had to cancel a cross country meet because of COVID"

ME: "This is happening all over the USA"

Except before you were saying these cancellations were only in blue states. I thought people in Idaho were not afraid of the virus and just went about their lives as if it didn't exist. Someone needs to explain to those kids why their meet was cancelled by a virus that is not a threat to anyone.

For the RECORD, States are not poor or rich. People are poor or rich. We track who those people are by PARTY affiliation.

2020

“voters with household incomes of less than $50,000 in 2019 broke for Biden by 55 to 43 percent — a 12 point margin, compared to 8 four years ago. This helped overcome Trump’s gains among households with incomes above $100,000”

2016

Hillary Clinton won by 12 points among voters making less than $30,000 a year—53% to Trump’s 41% —and by 9 points among people making between $30,000 and $49,999.

Trump’s support was the inverse. He won every group making $50,000 or more.

wazzu1452 wrote:

For the RECORD, States are not poor or rich. People are poor or rich. We track who those people are by PARTY affiliation.

2020

“voters with household incomes of less than $50,000 in 2019 broke for Biden by 55 to 43 percent — a 12 point margin, compared to 8 four years ago. This helped overcome Trump’s gains among households with incomes above $100,000”

2016

Hillary Clinton won by 12 points among voters making less than $30,000 a year—53% to Trump’s 41% —and by 9 points among people making between $30,000 and $49,999.

Trump’s support was the inverse. He won every group making $50,000 or more.

yeah you keep telling yourself that R regions aren't relatively poor backwaters.

Should help you keep your ideology intact very nicely.

Just keep telling yourself that the Trump belt is actually a thriving, growthy region. It will help ease your pain.

It took a few pages to trigger the boomer conservatives into posting nonsense but you did it. Props.

Let's not forget that undervaxxed Idaho is swimming in COVID with nobody to blame but themselves.

My point is that;

1) Democrats DOMINATE all of the low income categories every single election. They never take the Middle Class. They rely of the "give me free stuff" vote.

This is why every policy if "free" stuff for their loser/moocher base. i.e. "free" UBI - "Pay off my loans" "free" daycare, "free" reparations.

2) Because progressives are so unproductive and unmotivated they tend to also DOMINATE the welfare rolls.

i.e.

34%

Of the nation’s welfare recipients live in California but only …

12%

… of the U.S. population resides here.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/no-other-state-comes-close-to-california-when-it-comes-to-welfare-spending-2017-11-28

But the blue states are still the richest! That means either too many Rs make a state poor or D policies make a state rich.

You can sidestep the facts all you want...

This is just more racism by Democrats, knowing that many "red states", especially in the south, have large numbers of black Democrats.

There's always a fun game to see how long until wazzu posts some over-formatted screed saying "Democrats are poor" as a rebuttal to any argument.

Harambe wrote:

There's always a fun game to see how long until wazzu posts some over-formatted screed saying "Democrats are poor" as a rebuttal to any argument.

Yet he never disputes that democrat policies must lead to rich states?

I suspect he is very poor but wants to feel rich?

wazzu1452 wrote:

My point is that;

1) Democrats DOMINATE all of the low income categories every single election. They never take the Middle Class. They rely of the "give me free stuff" vote.

This is why every policy if "free" stuff for their loser/moocher base. i.e. "free" UBI - "Pay off my loans" "free" daycare, "free" reparations.

2) Because progressives are so unproductive and unmotivated they tend to also DOMINATE the welfare rolls.

i.e.

34%

Of the nation’s welfare recipients live in California but only …

12%

… of the U.S. population resides here.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/no-other-state-comes-close-to-california-when-it-comes-to-welfare-spending-2017-11-28

look, what no one wants to say here is that any group with a lot of African Americans in it will have a good amount of poverty by some definition. Both Trumpist areas like MS and deep blue cities.

Not sure what to tell you about that. Stinks, but it's true. We'd need an honest, taboo-free sociologist/political scientist to sort out all this and how to interpret. Subtract the african americans in data and things look different all over the map.

But in the end, if by the odds you really really don't want to live in a red state if gathering wealth is your goal. The odds are stacked against you. But maybe if you are highly educated white person you can overcome the hurdles trumplandia throws at you.

wazzu1452 wrote:

For the RECORD, States are not poor or rich. People are poor or rich. We track who those people are by PARTY affiliation.

2020

“voters with household incomes of less than $50,000 in 2019 broke for Biden by 55 to 43 percent — a 12 point margin, compared to 8 four years ago. This helped overcome Trump’s gains among households with incomes above $100,000”

2016

Hillary Clinton won by 12 points among voters making less than $30,000 a year—53% to Trump’s 41% —and by 9 points among people making between $30,000 and $49,999.

Trump’s support was the inverse. He won every group making $50,000 or more.

Who is "we"? And why would you track people by party affiliation rather than actual voting behavior?

And you are wrong about your stats. Biden won among those with income 50K - 99K and there was no difference among those with 200K+.

Forgot the source link.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results

agip wrote:

[quote]wazzu1452 wrote:

look, what no one wants to say here is that any group with a lot of African Americans in it will have a good amount of poverty by some definition.

OK Cletus.......Don't burn any crosses!

Next month your state will be in the same spot, but you will be silent.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I consider that a good thing. Along with no professional sports and lack of choices for ethnic food restaurants. 😷

Ha sounds terrible.

Oh no rich people voted for Biden!!!! Wazzu -> home, devastated.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Racket, PhD wrote:

Lol really gotta love this.

Argument: Idaho is a COVID hellhole

GOI counter-argument: "I would now like to talk about Chicago."

Next month your state will be in the same spot, but you will be silent.

Another great counter-argument.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Racket, PhD wrote:

Lol really gotta love this.

Argument: Idaho is a COVID hellhole

GOI counter-argument: "I would now like to talk about Chicago."

Next month your state will be in the same spot, but you will be silent.

Igy you really don't think that vaccinations levels and masking does anything?

The Northeast is among the most vaccinated and masked regions on the planet, plus it had a lot of covid already. As a result, COVID is not much of a problem in the Northeast anymore.

If you are saying vaccinations, masks and previous infections don't prevent COVID outbreaks...that's quite an anti-science statement.

A lot of people voted for Biden. More than any other presidential candidate in history. What does that have to do with Idaho completely botching handling COVID?