McGee through to the Final

High hopes wrote:

Still total bullsh1t that Amos, McGee, and Lewandowski were advanced and McColgan wasn't. If I'm a coach, I'm now telling my athletes that if they get spiked or clipped in heat or semi, they need to throw themselves on the ground then get up and jog it in. That's the incentive the officials have now put in place. It's like in soccer where you're more likely to get a penalty if you go to ground when fouled than if you try and stay on your feet

In fairness to McGee, if she truly did not trip up Chebet, she did not really have a chance to avoid going down.

The incident occurs at 45:24 of this

Yes this was a correct advancement. She was taken out through no fault of her own and was in plausible qualifying position

These heats are crowded affairs. Is it time to restructure qualifying? The 1972 and 1976 Women's 1500 had fewer competitors than you have today, but had more heats. Approximately 36-40 runners with four first round heats, with an average size of 9 runners per heat, including the final. Top four and next two fastest times advanced from round one; top four plus next fastest time(s) (2 in 1972, 1 in 1976) advanced from the semis to the finals. Tokyo has 45 entries, and they are cramming them into three heats. Spread it out to four heats, and you still have approximately 11 runners per race.

The constant tripping and shoving is ridiculous. Add a fourth heat to the first round.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Yes this was a correct advancement. She was taken out through no fault of her own and was in plausible qualifying position

Completely agree. This was the most justified advancement of these Olympics.

Chebet got tripped up on Hull’s heels and went completely down, leaving a stationary body on all fours between Cory McGee and forward progress.

Easy call by the officials to advance her.

IDK it just seems really titty. What is going on with everyone falling?

Pain in the heel wrote:

These heats are crowded affairs. Is it time to restructure qualifying? The 1972 and 1976 Women's 1500 had fewer competitors than you have today, but had more heats. Approximately 36-40 runners with four first round heats, with an average size of 9 runners per heat, including the final. Top four and next two fastest times advanced from round one; top four plus next fastest time(s) (2 in 1972, 1 in 1976) advanced from the semis to the finals. Tokyo has 45 entries, and they are cramming them into three heats. Spread it out to four heats, and you still have approximately 11 runners per race.

The constant tripping and shoving is ridiculous. Add a fourth heat to the first round.

I agree with you, and it compounds itself. When you put in 14 or 15 in a heat inevitably 2-3 athletes will fall and get advanced. Well then the 12-person semi becomes a 13-person semi (as it was for both semis) and a fall is now highly possible in that.

If they add a heat and cap the heats at a max of 12 athletes it is very likely that all 3 rounds will feature 12 athletes at a maximum as it should be.

Every athlete after 12 makes a fall likely at a fast-increasing rate.

For another comparison, there were the same number of entries in the men's 1500 in 1976 as there are at this Olympics, but in 1976 there were five heats in round one, compared to just three in Tokyo. No wonder people are falling.

Since 1984, they've wanted to keep the 12 man semi-final and final format, but why crowd the first round so badly? Why not keep all rounds as close to 10-12 runners per race as possible? With additional rounds, more runners will qualify on place than on time, which I think is probably more fair, anyway.

Why is her Instagram wiped?

It's not

High hopes wrote:

Still total bullsh1t that Amos, McGee, and Lewandowski were advanced and McColgan wasn't. If I'm a coach, I'm now telling my athletes that if they get spiked or clipped in heat or semi, they need to throw themselves on the ground then get up and jog it in.

just cannot fathom this tbh, mccolgan was clearly impeded - and visibly injured! - by tanaka running into her from behind and niyonsaba barging her from the inside; if mcgee goes through after being blocked by a woman in front of her and running 4:10, why doesn't mccolgan go through after being hit from behind and running 15:09?

Sorry about my irresponsible post. (Who says that on the forum?). I took even more time to look at the race, this time in slow motion and frame by frame examination I now see that Winny Chebet’s left foot does come into contact with the back of Jessica Hull’s right foot starting the chain reaction causing Winny and Cory Ann to fall. All the best in the finals. Go Team USA! Thanks Katelyn for the idea to do a relook.

trip hazard wrote:

McGee caused the fall in front of her. She should not have been moved to the final.

That’s how I saw it as well. She seemed to have clipped Chebet from behind. If only one is advanced, should not be her, but really should not be her either way (unless another angle shows different of course).

RunRaider wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Yes this was a correct advancement. She was taken out through no fault of her own and was in plausible qualifying position

Completely agree. This was the most justified advancement of these Olympics.

Chebet got tripped up on Hull’s heels and went completely down, leaving a stationary body on all fours between Cory McGee and forward progress.

https://imgur.com/a/ikmKoDg

Easy call by the officials to advance her.

100%. Definitely not thrilled with all the falls and advances, but why wouldn't they advance her? Reading some of the comments before catching the race, it seemed like she was off--or at least a the back of--the pack. Instead, she was right with the two little-qs. No chance to avoid + very plausible qualifying position + strong finish = good qR.

Exactly, Suzy H. would’ve made the finals every Olympics.

She won't be a factor in the final unless she trips someone.

trip hazard wrote:

McGee caused the fall in front of her. She should not have been moved to the final.

Nope, the gal in front of her caught a spike on the ground, tripped right over her own feet.

High hopes wrote:

Still total bullsh1t that Amos, McGee, and Lewandowski were advanced and McColgan wasn't. If I'm a coach, I'm now telling my athletes that if they get spiked or clipped in heat or semi, they need to throw themselves on the ground then get up and jog it in. That's the incentive the officials have now put in place. It's like in soccer where you're more likely to get a penalty if you go to ground when fouled than if you try and stay on your feet

fortunately, nobody will take that advice. Everyone has a better chance of you dont fall. You can get hurt for months going down. The falls are way up this year, almost every heat. Thats the real discussion, whats going on? More aggressive? More risk taking? I have seen as many close calls as falls. Crazy stuff. Murphy had to literally shove people out of his way that tried to run right over him. People are being coached to cut in on a B line with no regard and people will just get out of you way. Or something.

High hopes wrote:

Still total bullsh1t that Amos, McGee, and Lewandowski were advanced and McColgan wasn't. If I'm a coach, I'm now telling my athletes that if they get spiked or clipped in heat or semi, they need to throw themselves on the ground then get up and jog it in. That's the incentive the officials have now put in place. It's like in soccer where you're more likely to get a penalty if you go to ground when fouled than if you try and stay on your feet

Flopping in T&F. Who would have thought...

Cory Ann was not last in the final!