Can Oregon find a #5 for cross?

Oregon roster updated for the new season - includes Teare, Hocker, Jackson Mestler, and Charlie Hunter

https://goducks.com/sports/cross-country/roster

what about AARON BIENENFELD?

This team could win.

OC4 wrote:

Richer than most wrote:

Hard to lose when Ducks go 1-2. They only have to score 3 runners against 5 for other teams.

Actually not only very easy for them to lose in that scenario, but based on their lack of an All American type 4th or 5th runner, their loss is almost guaranteed.

Last year NAU scored 60 and ND scored 87 stuffing all 5 within the top 25. Outside of Oregon's theoretical top 3 of Teare/Hocker/Bienefield, nobody else on Oregon's roster has a realistic shot of sniffing the top 50 meaning their 4th and 5th scorers will score well over 100 points just by themselves.

Ah yes, extremely hard to lose. Except for 2014 when Oregon did exactly that, going 1-2 but finishing 6th as a team.

Nope, Oregon is a track & field program. Look for these guys to get in a couple solid 3k and down time trials this fall and prepare to run 3:45-47 indoors.

1-2 is too much to ask for with all the variability on a day, but if:

Teare and Hocker top 5-10

Bienenmen top 35

Mestler top 40

that's around what it will take to win, with just 4 runners

Seems like a win would take:

Teare and Hocker with 5-10 points between them

Bienenmen and Mestler top 20-25

TBD #5 around 35-40

Reed Brown was a FL Champ - maybe with a good, healthy summer and fall could have a breakthru

Jack Yearian was 25th at 2019 west regional... with some improvement and good race could be a respectable #5?

Incoming Brit James Gorley ran 14:03 5000m in 2019

Charlie Hunter has finished in the teens at Pac-12s a couple times. The jump from 8k to 10k unsurprisingly seems tough for him.

1. Teare

2. Hocker

3 .Bienenfeld

4.Mestler

5. Yerian

Maybe Reed Brown remembers he was a footlocker champ and becomes a scoring member

A couple not-so-hot takes...

Bienenfeld places better than Hocker at NCAA XC

Oregon does not win the team title

What is Reed Brown's next move post-college?

I think teare and hocker go 1-2. Probably with hocker winning. Teare was 6th at XC in 2019 and he’s leveled up since then, and hocker probably could have beat teare to win the ncaa 5k so you gotta think he’s of similar level or better

2 sub 13:20 guys with 3:50 mile speed. I expect nothing less than 1-2 from them. They are easily better than guys like Knight or McDonald at their college primes. I don’t think Hocker or Teare would come back if they didn’t think they could win a national team title. Aaron Bienfield might be the best #3 guy in the country with pbs of 13:31/28:10. The question mark is their # 4 and 5 guys. They do have a meet next week so we might see some possible candidates for that.

The obviously don’t care about cross so why does it matter. This year put that on full display. Instead their focus is on winning track titles and getting guys on World/Olympic track teams.

Renters Club wrote:

The obviously don’t care about cross so why does it matter. This year put that on full display. Instead their focus is on winning track titles and getting guys on World/Olympic track teams.

Hopefully HOcker cares about cross this year, it should be his last semester with the Oregon team.

He would be foolish to go through NCAA indoors and outdoors in the leadup to worlds. Of course, it worked for the olympic cycle this year. Maybe I am wrong. Or maybe he is playing with fire keeping to that schedule.

Thought they were recruiting the Aussie Palfrey who ran 1:48 and 3:40 as a high school this year. He would have helped.

Yawn.

What a ridiculous question to ask. We are in the middle of a big run of Diamond League meetings with consistent world class performances and great matchups to discuss yet some of you seem more absorbed by who will make a team spot in a higher education field jog.

Really bizarrely insular.

best trio in the ncaa wrote:

2 sub 13:20 guys with 3:50 mile speed. I expect nothing less than 1-2 from them. They are easily better than guys like Knight or McDonald at their college primes. I don’t think Hocker or Teare would come back if they didn’t think they could win a national team title. Aaron Bienfield might be the best #3 guy in the country with pbs of 13:31/28:10. The question mark is their # 4 and 5 guys. They do have a meet next week so we might see some possible candidates for that.

Last time I checked for NCAA XC you still need to run 5.2 more miles after a first mile. A lot of milers don't do well with that addition. Nico Young is a 13:24 guy; Abdi Nur is a 13:26 guy; Theo Quax and Brodey Hasty are 13:49 guys, and NAU has another half dozen guys who may be able to run close to or better than Quax and Hasty. All of them are more 5k-10k types than Hocker and Teare, who are mile/5k types. Oregon won't come close to NAU, but with a really good day might be in the running for 3rd at XC's.

arcticchris wrote:

Yawn.

What a ridiculous question to ask. We are in the middle of a big run of Diamond League meetings with consistent world class performances and great matchups to discuss yet some of you seem more absorbed by who will make a team spot in a higher education field jog.

Really bizarrely insular.

Almost as bizarre as someone who with all of the Diamond League meets to read about and discuss decided it was worth his time not only to click on the link to the "college forum" but then on top of that take additional time out of his day to post a paragraph on the college forum. SMH

OC4 wrote:

arcticchris wrote:

Yawn.

What a ridiculous question to ask. We are in the middle of a big run of Diamond League meetings with consistent world class performances and great matchups to discuss yet some of you seem more absorbed by who will make a team spot in a higher education field jog.

Really bizarrely insular.

Almost as bizarre as someone who with all of the Diamond League meets to read about and discuss decided it was worth his time not only to click on the link to the "college forum" but then on top of that take additional time out of his day to post a paragraph on the college forum. SMH

Had no need to click a link to the college forum as when you go on the main message board it includes the threads from all the different sub forums so it was there anyway.

zcxvxcv wrote:

Oregon's focus is track so they won't win a xc title, and they wouldn't with those guys anyway because NAU and BYU are too deep and talented. Nur and Nico make a pretty solid 1-2 with a 27:50? guy and the guy who paced him to that and was 4th last year.

Jack Daniels Calculator says 27:50 is T-pace for a 3:31 1500 runner.