Hobbs Kessler: "There are coaches with more accolades, but pretty much all those coaches are under suspect for doping"

With all due respect, you ain't old enough kid.

Hobbs fan wrote:

With all due respect, you ain't old enough kid.

This seems to be a clear example of parroting what his idol and training partner Willis expresses. I doubt Hobbs is well versed in arguments for or against the “cleanliness” of various coaches.

LOL that's quite a lot of coaches he's implicating here, since Warhurst, while still a great coach, really does not have that many top level athletes apart from Sullivan, Brannen, and Willis.

What about the coach he just signed up to run for in college?

Damn bro. They got you. Hook line and sinker. CRT is not real. Yikes

Seppo Kaitenenn wrote:

What about the coach he just signed up to run for in college?

lol I was thinking the same thing

Mike Smith and Mark Wetmore both seem pretty legit and clean, and at least Wetmore has a much better resume than Warhurst thus far. Smith probably will with time.

birdbeard wrote:

Mike Smith and Mark Wetmore both seem pretty legit and clean, and at least Wetmore has a much better resume than Warhurst thus far. Smith probably will with time.

Based on what are they "pretty legit and clean"?

Smith took in Rupp after his long-time coach got banned for three doping infractions, and Rupp appeared as "likely doping" on the leaked IAAF list, and USADA claimed that is was highly likely that Rupp used a forbidden method and that he also got flagged with a suspicious testo spike.

Wetmore allegedly sent Goucher to Dr. Brown, now also banned.

Reminds me of "birds of a feather..." all over again.

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Sham 69 wrote:

What do you think LetsRun libs? Is this raysict?

Most things that whites say have racist undertones because they don't first consider how a minority would be affected by the situation they are speaking about. Always remember that what minorites think about things has more value than a white persons perspective. Since there are less of them most of their opinions never see the light of day because they are drowning in a white sea. It is the obligation of whites to speak on behalf minorites in order for their valuable opinions to be heard.

Lol nice. You're hypnotized by the new religion of wokeism. Everything is about race and power structures. Such a simpleton.

You got baited so hard dude

We've seen this all before. The ones that advocate the loudest are the dirtiest.

Message to "clean athletes" wrote:

We've seen this all before. The ones that advocate the loudest are the dirtiest.

I tend to agree with this, not as a rule but just in general. There's really no reason to draw this kind of attention if you're doing everything by the book.

See: Craig Engels' comments on Bernard Lagat, Jenny Simpson. Like dude, you were CURRENTLY running for NOP when the head coach was busted for a doping violation. Settle down.

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LOL that's quite a lot of coaches he's implicating here, since Warhurst, while still a great coach, really does not have that many top level athletes apart from Sullivan, Brannen, and Willis.

Been following that group for a long time, aside from the college success, Warhurst also had Brian Diemer, Greg Meyer, Will Leer, and 3 olympians in 2016 (Matthews, Carson, Willis all for NZ)

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Message to "clean athletes" wrote:

We've seen this all before. The ones that advocate the loudest are the dirtiest.

I tend to agree with this, not as a rule but just in general. There's really no reason to draw this kind of attention if you're doing everything by the book.

See: Craig Engels' comments on Bernard Lagat, Jenny Simpson. Like dude, you were CURRENTLY running for NOP when the head coach was busted for a doping violation. Settle down.

Engels was never coached by Al Sal tho only Pete and besides wouldn't you want that he isn't biased and wants all athletes who dope found out even if it's under his group

Patrick Sang would like a word.

I like Nick but his whole thing is he’s prized longevity over going to the well. He ran his PBs at what age 31-32, barely ran altitude until late in his career, ran 6 days a week, has rarely if ever had a training partner on his level. And I’m supposed to believe that only dirty athletes can beat him? Please.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Patrick Sang would like a word.

I like Nick but his whole thing is he’s prized longevity over going to the well. He ran his PBs at what age 31-32, barely ran altitude until late in his career, ran 6 days a week, has rarely if ever had a training partner on his level. And I’m supposed to believe that only dirty athletes can beat him? Please.

One thing is for sure, only dirty athletes beat him in 2008. They grabbed a great deal of money out of one pocket and satisfaction from another.

Man, I like Willis and Kessler seems a good kid but man as a group they seem to have such a chip on their shoulder.

I suppose you could say the same for Manzano in 2012. It’s a bit of a stretch for me in the sense that those races are completely different without the doped athletes in there (if you believe Kiprop/Makh were).

Most long-term top athletes have that very same chip, whether they let it be seen or not. Exhibit "A": Justin Gatlin, for quite opposite reasons than the Warhurst group.

Hobbs fan wrote:

With all due respect, you ain't old enough kid.

He sure is fast enough to call things as they are. Are you saying he is too young to realize that cheating is required? Nope, call it out.