What's up with Brodey Hasty?

He has left him behind in favor of seemingly faster people like Luis Grijalva and Nico Young,and Nur, while he is a team player, but Hasty was faster at certain distances than most of those that are ahead of him at NAU.

That seems weird. He's not doing enough to create the Hasty that he thought he'd be when he came to NAU, for Hasty's sake.

More specifically, how can we explain the disparity between Nur and Hasty when in HS, Hasty's 5000m was over a minute faster than Nur's.

Nearly all of the athletes that Brodey's HS coach worked with fizzle out or quit in college. Brodey is doing well. And if you're a coach, who will you pay more attention to, the low stick or the fifth man, who has the most impact on your team score?

The easy answer is that Brodey peaked in HS.

If so? What about his 13:55 at Stanford?

Certainly XC is slower, but if he is a sub-14 guy, how does he fall nearly a minute behind those who were slower than he was coming in, when he improved from his HS times at 5000m while at NAU?

Stoppit Smith wrote:

He has left him behind in favor of seemingly faster people like Luis Grijalva and Nico Young,and Nur, while he is a team player, but Hasty was faster at certain distances than most of those that are ahead of him at NAU.

That seems weird. He's not doing enough to create the Hasty that he thought he'd be when he came to NAU, for Hasty's sake.

No, what seems weird are your comments. Your line of thinking is bordering on bizarre. What you seem to be suggesting is that Smith is intentionally trying to hinder Hasty's development. You probably think that Smith lies awake at thinking to himself "what am I going to do to hinder Brodey Hasty's development and make him a bad runner? What can I do to make sure that Luis Grijalva, Nico Young, and Abdihamid Nur are better runners? I like those guys so much more than Brodey."

Speaking of development, you don't seem to understand it. You state that Hasty was fast than Grijalva, Young, and Nur while he was in high school and yes, for the most part, his times were faster. But you do understand that athletes, in just about any sport, develop at different rates and ages. High school success is not a predictor of future success, or do you not understand that? The sport, and all sports, have a lot of examples of guys that were superstuds in high school only to be pretty average, or worse, in college. You seem to think that if Hasty were at a different school and had a different coach, that he would be a vastly better runner.

For the record, I do not believe that Brodey is just an "average" runner. I still think that he is a hell of a competitor and will continue to do good things at NAU. You, Stoppit, apparently think that he sucks and is washed up. It's a good thinking that someone with your mentality isn't his coach.

Also, Stoppit, you seem to think that if a guy was faster than another guy while he was in high school, that he should remain faster than that other guy forever. Are you really that obtuse?

Points of clarification:

1. I don't think Coach Smith wants to hinder Hasty at all. I think he just stopped regarding him.

2. I don't think that Hasty is better served by a different coach with a different approach...I know he would be.

3. I don't automatically think he should be faster, but if it's not a normal progressive chain, I'd have to wonder why.

4. Brodey Hasty clearly has a lot of heart and is and was a promising champion.

Nike did Acosta dirty.

OTC did Rowbury dirty.

And i believe NAU is doing Hasty dirty.

How are they not?

Correction: NOP and not OTC for Rowbury.

You seem like a troll Stoppit Smith. What's your running and coaching background? You seem to post a lot on here.

Running background: 45:52 5k PR.. 20 years ago.

Coaching background: none

Judge me..i don't care.

I don't care who you support or who you are...i don't care if you're a coach or a fan and I don't care what you do, will do or did...

I will lie freely to you because you want judgment fodder.

No!

I'm nothing..but you're supporting nothing.

Hastey is slower than some of his teammates. They beat him. I watched it. He is coached by the best coach in the NCAA. Those are the facts.

Great!

But why?

God creates us all as individuals. You are slower than me and I am slower than Hastey and he is slower than Grijalva. If everyone was the same speed, races would be pointless.

Ok. And the coach 's role in all of this for Hasty specifically is????

Startit Smith wrote:

God creates us all as individuals. You are slower than me and I am slower than Hastey and he is slower than Grijalva. If everyone was the same speed, races would be pointless.

Before I comment here, this is BigSlacker. I have other comments in this thread. Perhaps I am going to need to register here. Anonymous posting is pretty difficult. I will often get this message when trying to post here - Someone else in this thread has already used this anonymous username from a different device. Well, I'm not someone else and I use multiple devices! I've never seen anything like this on other forums in which people post anonymously. This only encourages people to post under a bunch of different names and then people forget who they are. My comments are in bold, obviously

I think what this all comes down to is that you have a man-crush on Brodey Hasty. You were a Hasty fanboi when he was in high school and you wanted to see him continue to be as dominant in college as he was in high school. What you don't understand, that in college and at a high-level in D1, the competitors are beasts. There are a ton of guys that are all very talented. A lot of those guys are guys that Hasty may have been superior to in high school but, again, we get into that development thing and how it is not linear and on a continuous spectrum.

This is the last that I would like to say about this. Meanwhile, I think that you should get some therapy and stop wasting your time perseverating about all of this. You really do have a problem.

To clarify my comments above, I wrote this:

A lot of those guys are guys that Hasty may have been superior to in high school but, again, we get into that development thing and how it is not linear and on a continuous spectrum.

What I meant to write, is this:

"A lot of those guys are guys that Hasty may have been superior to in high school but, again, we get into that development thing and how it is not linear and is not on a continuous spectrum."

I assume that you probably know that, Stoppit, but a lot seems to be lost and not impressed on you, even when it is obvious.

One last thing, and then I hope that this is the last that I need to comment, on the development issue.

Not everyone is coached the same in high school. Some high school coaches have a kid with huge talent and they don't know what to do with it. Some of those guys are the guys that have caught up to Brodey once they became collegiate runners. This is just another aspect of the whole development thing.

If Brodey thinks that he is being "done dirty," he can easily enter the transfer portal. Do you think that he will?

Your are an anonymous poster. How do you think you own your name any more than the words in your post?

Stoppit Smith has many opinions that contradict facts. Maybe Soppit Smith and Coach Smith are the same.person.

Startit Smith wrote:

Your are an anonymous poster. How do you think you own your name any more than the words in your post?

Stoppit Smith has many opinions that contradict facts. Maybe Soppit Smith and Coach Smith are the same.person.

I see that you're another bright boy.

Did I ever say that I owned my anonymous moniker? What I alluded to, and maybe you're about as sharp as Stoppit Smith, or maybe you're schizophrenic and are Stoppit Smith and enjoy conversing with yourself, is that the software here will not allow me to use my same anonymous moniker when posting on different devices and within the same thread. Sometimes it won't even allow me to use the same moniker within the same thread from the same device.

Capisce?

If he wants a potential running career, he should.

Fact is that a lot of D-I, D-II, and even D-III athletes who post here maybe could have taken that next step had they had a coach who put a bit of extra effort in for them specifically.

I guess what I'm looking for is this....

In baseball, a hitting coach on the same team will coach Johnny Baseball how to hit Tommy's slurve in practice. This translates to better slurve hitting in games.

In football, a linebacker coach will coach Frankie Football to get through the line at practice. This translates to more sacks in a season.

I do not see why a CC coach can't give each athlete a plan to use to try to beat the top runner so that it amplifies the level of the athletes and gives them realistic hope for a future in running.

This is what seems to happen in Oregon, at least in Track...Teare beats Hocker. Hocker beats Teare, and no egos are shattered.

The team concept only seems to benefit the top of the top toward a running career and makes runners who are not the top unselfish while quietly giving up many of their futures.

I'm not okay with this.