Man, I was disappointed to see his performance in Las Vegas. Seemed like he was starting to rally a bit last year, but he's back to pre-college level performance for him. When Grijalva, Bosley, and Quax join the troops, no way he makes the team. :(
Man, I was disappointed to see his performance in Las Vegas. Seemed like he was starting to rally a bit last year, but he's back to pre-college level performance for him. When Grijalva, Bosley, and Quax join the troops, no way he makes the team. :(
His old high school private coach is well-known for milking them in high school.
I'm having flashbacks to the thread about D2 yesterday.
He was injured last year for a bit, may still be building back up. However, Smith did put him in the top 7 of a very deep team so he must be fit enough or training well. Probably just a bad day.
I don't think Brodey has been training as much as the rest of the team. He had been dealing with some injury issues, ect., and this year has been crazy, so he could also just be having a hard time mentally getting himself ready to compete at a high level. I think Smith put him in the race to give Brodey a chance to test where he's at despite not training at a level he needs to be at. He was well back of the top 5, but I think he'll climb back into the mix next year when things return to more normalcy.
At NAU he's just another horse in the barn.
He showed up when it counted yesterday. When Bosley died out over the last 3k he picked up the pieces
Good for him
I think they would of still win with Bosleys placing if he were their fifth
The 2018 HS graduating class, that Hasty was a part of, was highly heralded as being one of the best in a while. Many thought that Hasty was the best in that class. I thought that it would be interesting to look at the top 10 seniors from 2017 NXN (which means that they were 2018 HS grads) and see how they did yesterday, FWIW, Hasty did fine yesterday, and came through in the clutch. He nearly earned All-American status. Runners that are were not seniors for the 2017 NXN were omitted.
1. Aidan Troutner - won NXN in 15:03, yesterday he was at 31:54 for 125th overall
2. Brody Hasty - runnerup to Troutner at NXN, 44th in 30:51
3. James Mwaura - 4th at NXN, 225th in 33:45
4. Danny Kilrea - 5th NXN, 10th in 30:11
5. Dustin Horter - 6th NXN, 231 in 34:25
6. Khalid Hussein - 10th NXN, DNR yesterday
7. Duncan Hamilton - 11th at NXN, 110 in 31:36
8. Peter Morris - 12th NXN, 158 in 32:19
9. Dylan Jacobs - 13th NXN, 20th in 30:26
10. Clayton Mendez - 18th NXN, DNR
If you scan through the results on the NCAA championships, you can see other guys from that class that finished ahead of some of those ahead of them at NXN and many of those guys have also performed at a consistently higher level. This really shows that HS performances are only one part of predicting future success and often, it can be a poor predictor of future success.
As far as Troutner's success, it will more than likely come at some point. Sometimes those BYU guys are hard to get a handle on. I believe that Troutner just recently came back from his mission work. While I find it hard to believe that the BYU guys don't do any training while doing mission work, it is not at the same level as their peers. Lucas Bons was also in the class of 2018, has been doing mission work, and uncorked a 3:55 mile a few weeks ago.
We all seem to know that HS results don't automatically translate into college success. Still, this is interesting information. Thanks for sharing.
To be fair to Dustin Horter, he had COVID and is still having issues. Hopefully he will get back to full strength.
Someonewhoknows wrote:
To be fair to Dustin Horter, he had COVID and is still having issues. Hopefully he will get back to full strength.
That really sucks that he had covid. I hope that he fully recovers. He is one of the guys that I am familiar with from that talented 2018 class. He was one of the more touted runners from that class. Most that have followed high school and college running closely are familiar with him. Good wishes to him. Having said that, what I am going to say probably is going to make me sound like a dick but I mean no disrespect.
I find it hard to believe that a school like Indiana would let a guy run in the NCAA championships if he is "still having issues." If he is the 7th best guy in the program while having issues, that is a program in a world of hurt. If the program did have someone that could have stepped up, and the coach still decided to run him, that is on the coach and shows a poor plan. Running a guy still recovering from covid tells me that Indiana has no depth and was out of their league at the NCAA championship. Michigan, even though they were not selected, would have been a much better team to be selected. The Wolverines got screwed.
Also, and this will also make me sound like a jerk and a dick, covid has been with us for only a year (even though "only" is much longer than it should have been with us. If people weren't idiots early on and didn't listen to the dunce of a president that we had, normal life would have happened a long time ago. This is a different issue so I'll stop). So, back to covid "only" being with us for a year, what about his performances before covid? I'm not saying that all of his performances at Indiana have been bad but, quite honestly, I expected a lot more.
I hope the young man gets back on track and becomes the athlete that many thought he would be and, more importantly, that he thought he would be.
I said this a couple of weeks ago and got backlash for it.
I know everyone loves Mike Smith, but Hasty is being passed over for people faster and is not getting what he asked for by going to NAU.
As long as Hasty is with Smith, he's not getting there. I said he's being done dirty and I still mean that.
I don't think Smith is giving Hasty the tools he needs because he has faster horses.
I don't care if people agree. Hasty can be better than NAU is letting him be and I still think he needs to transfer to a coach who can succeed AND help Hasty improve.
Smith is allowing Hasty to be viewed as an also-ran and I don't think it's right.
Stoppit Smith wrote:
I said this a couple of weeks ago and got backlash for it.
I know everyone loves Mike Smith, but Hasty is being passed over for people faster and is not getting what he asked for by going to NAU.
As long as Hasty is with Smith, he's not getting there. I said he's being done dirty and I still mean that.
I don't think Smith is giving Hasty the tools he needs because he has faster horses.
I don't care if people agree. Hasty can be better than NAU is letting him be and I still think he needs to transfer to a coach who can succeed AND help Hasty improve.
Smith is allowing Hasty to be viewed as an also-ran and I don't think it's right.
I'm not going to give you backlash, but have a few comments about your post.
I noticed that you're a registered user. What does it take to be a registered user here vs posting anonymously? As with other forums I assume that you just request a username and supply your email address. You then sign in when you post. I find it interesting that your registered username is Stoppit Smith. The "Smith," based on the comments that you made about Mike Smith, tells me that the Smith you're referring to is Mike Smith. That makes your comments just a bit less credible.
Didn't Hasty originally commit to Oregon? Why did he change his commitment? He must have seen something with NAU and Smith that he liked. You can't honestly believe that Smith isn't doing what is in Hasty's best interests or is intentionally trying to screw him in some way, can you? Hasty ran a hell of a race yesterday. He came through when he was needed. Bosley faltered a bit and Hasty stepped up. If he hadn't, the Irish could have been the champions.
Nico Young, Luis Grijalva, and Abdihamid Nur are genetic freaks, there's no doubt. Blaise Ferro isn't quite as genetically gifted as those guys but he's not far behind. Has Smith ever tried to screw Ferro? Brodey Hasty probably doesn't have the genetic gifts of those guys either but he is gifted. You say that Hasty is being "done dirty" but why would a coach do that? A good coach is going to want all of his guys to be the best that they can possibly be.
It's obvious that you have some sort of an agenda. I'm not sure what that agenda is, though.
Seven years ago this April, I started on letsrun. I had unregistered names. Suddenly, after people appropriated my names to deter me from posting, I created Stoppit Smith...A differently spelled version of Stop It...both against the mean posts here and a variant of STOPit....based on a company about inclusivity and anti-bullying.
I wasn't familiar with Mike Smith until I knew Hasty was going to NAU.
Having moved to Middle Tennessee, I became quite familiar with the talents of Hasty. I know what Hasty came in with and I don't think, with Young, Grijalva, Quax, etc, that Hasty is on his "going places with his talent" radar anymore .
I won't go into a huge explanation but it seems weird when times are similar give or take a few across a couple of seasons. If coaches didn't have specific foci for favored athletes, we would not know who the 1,2,3 or 4 is because if it was by time, then the fastest after that race would be the 1 until it changed.
You can't tell me that Hasty as the 6 or 7 or maybe the fortunate 8 is getting the same regard as Nur, Quax, Grijalva or Young.
I don't see him taking Hasty 's rescue time for the team seriously enough to bank on Hasty for the same result each time.
I'm far too "off the cuff" to come in with any agenda.
Stoppit Smith wrote:
You can't tell me that Hasty as the 6 or 7 or maybe the fortunate 8 is getting the same regard as Nur, Quax, Grijalva or Young.
I don't see him taking Hasty 's rescue time for the team seriously enough to bank on Hasty for the same result each time.
Any coach worth his salt is going to have the same regard for Hasty if he were the 6th, 7th, or even the 8th runner. Look what happened at the NCAA on Monday. Bosley faltered a bit. If Hasty wasn't there to pick up the pieces things might have been bad. (I do think that NAU still would have beaten ND for the title with Bosley's but I didn't look to figure out the numbers. It just would have been a lot closer). If your assumption is that Smith doesn't have the same regard for his 6th through 8th runners as his top runners, then I guess he's not a good coach.
To be honest, a 6th or 7th runner will often be counted on to pick up the pieces if the guys ahead of hi falter. Even if a 6th or 7th doesn't score, they can influence scores by running ahead of other teams' scoring runners. The 8th guy is also important. What happens in the event of an injury to one of the top 7 runners? That 8th guy is going to be counted on.
I still contend that you have some sort of an ax to grind with Smith. I noticed your comments awhile back but did not comment at that time. If NAU is not the place for Hasty and Smith isn't the coach for him, where would you suggest he go?
Don’t take it personally. He’s been around for quite some time with the same name. He usually comes off as a very angry and very argumentative type, so just take it all with a grain of salt. To his credit, he seemed to want to whip someone’s @ss over that E Înfeld incident.
For the prowess and goals that Hasty had coming out of Brentwood, I'd like to see him with a coach that values both the team goals and Hasty's.
I can see that Smith is a great coach with a great team.
But the question is about Brodey Hasty.
Is he the best for Brodey?
Yes, Brodey is a runner on the team. He’s top 5, so the coach is paying attention to him.
Brodey seems like a good kid, but the fact is that he’s kind of short and stout for a D1 XC runner. I think he’s making everything he has from his potential.
And..
There it is..
That's precisely the arbitrary judgment being made by Coach Smith as easily as it was just made here.