Strava goes political. What are your thoughts? Should I delete the App?

G Cup wrote:

Yes, we do. The problem is that only one voice and opinion (the Left) is being allowed to be heard. Social Media and the Main Stream Media have been silencing opinions of the Right, an the past year have gotten more and more aggressive about it. Companies that post this SJW crap do nothing but alienate half of their customers and create an even bigger divide.

It's not hard to figure out why though is it? To create a successful tech firm you have to be *quite smart*, which is going to influence your political stance..

And there it is in a nutshell. The Left doesn’t tolerate differing views because they think those views are inferior and “not smart”. So much for diversity of thought and viewpoint...

I'm a man, I'm 40 wrote:

I watch several news channels and read several different online media outlets for my political information.

Right here you're admitting that you've been brainwashed.

mikey wrote:

That said, the OP reaction is just more cancel culture. Don’t complain about cancel culture if that is exactly what you do when confronted with a view you don’t like.

That you can't tell the difference between uninstalling an app yourself vs. calling people's work who use Strava, doxxing people's personal info who use Strava, calling Strava's sponsors, and my favorite, organizing employee protests at seemingly apolitical Internet backbones to deplatform Strava from the web is pretty obtuse.

enjoy your losses

Huh? “Move past”? Have you been asleep the last 4 years? People are sick of the BS that is being shoved down their throats. They’re sick of the media bias. Tired of the two sets of rules. Censorship and cancel culture is passed off as the new norm, and I refuse to accept it.

Why support an entity that is blatantly biased and stands for something that you disagree with? If deleting the app is the only way I can protest what I see is junk, then it’s bye-bye for me, Paulo.

Not political. It's pathetic that you're even trying to make this case. What happen on Jan 6th was an act of domestic terrorism spurred on by Trump and his enablers because Trump's ego left no room for him to lose gracefully. The protests this summer were spurred on because a Black man was murdered by a group of police officer, which sadly we've seen happen too many times before.

Stop trying to give reverence to "both sides". Trumpism is fascism, and fascists are never looked kindly upon in history.

I'd suggest instead of posting about a running app hurting your feelings on a running board you educate yourself on the Black American experience and the dark history of the US.

NERunner53 wrote:

But yea, you should go ahead and delete Strava if this has you in a tizzy. No need to announce it, just go.

Why do you guys get mad when someone posts something on a discussion board that you don’t like? Just spend your time elsewhere.

The rebuttal to this is for too long white people in this country have prioritized their own sense of comfort over real racial justice reform. It may be politics for you, but for marginalized communities they're fighting for their basic human rights. Did you see the voting lines in black communities this year? I've never waited in line more than 20min to vote. Imagine for a second how exhausting it must be to be black in this country, trying to get everyone's attention over the prejudice and injustice your community faces, and be constantly dismissed. Like, god forbid my demands for basic equality make white people tired. MLK was spot on in that piece about his disappointment with the "white moderate".

Also, please explain why it's exhausting to watch someone else kneel for a 2min song?

DougC wrote:

G Cup wrote:

It's not hard to figure out why though is it? To create a successful tech firm you have to be *quite smart*, which is going to influence your political stance..

And there it is in a nutshell. The Left doesn’t tolerate differing views because they think those views are inferior and “not smart”. So much for diversity of thought and viewpoint...

Which is strange, considering the left dominates the vote of the impoverished. If they only want 'smart people' on their team, they wouldn't win a single election.

The most ironic part about this is its the people complaining about things getting political are the ones always turning things into a big deal.

What else I find amusing about this sort of thing is isn't this literally capitalism at work? I mean, its essentially marketing/PR for these companies. All this 'censorship' is simply companies realizing whats better for their business. You think its government pressure and not pressure from investors? Well you'd be a fool to think that. The crowd that screams socialism about everything, getting upset about capitalism at work. Gotta love that irony.

I guess you might want to delete the app if you don't think Democracy is cool

This, my friends, is a perfect example of the manipulation of language that goes on every day in the legacy news media. I do not know if Strava is just repeating what they've learned from such media, or if they're willfully participating in misdirection themselves. Either way, I'm sure that they're convinced of their own righteousness, which could be used to justify their motive.

So, with that in mind, let's take a close look at their statement:

The contrast between how the mob of domestic terrorists was treated as they breached the US Capitol and the treatment of those who peacefully demonstrated against systemic racism in places like Washington D.C., Portland, Minneapolis and Detroit over the past months was deeply disturbing.

The above statement more than likely true.

The trickery is that they left out several very important aspects. They didn't compare the mob of domestic terrorists at the Capitol to the mobs of domestic terrorists in Washington D.C., Portland, Minneapolis, and Detroit. Nor did they compare those who peacefully demonstrated at the Capitol to those who peacefully demonstrated in the aforementioned cities.

From what I can tell, the mobs of domestic terrorists in places like Portland met little resistance when they took over buildings, mobbed, burned, stole, murdered, and seceded from the union, for months. In contrast, the abhorrent act at the capitol, where a woman was shot by police, was over very quickly. Can any of us say her name?

When claims such as Strava's are made, it's up to all of us to scrutinize their statements not just for factual content, but also for what is left out. The legacy media and social media have been twisting information like this for far too long. To echo the cry from left, you have to, "educate yourself."

To lay my cards on the table, I'm a middle aged Mexican-American. This alone shouldn't imply anything about my politics. In fact, I don't have any particular political leanings, but I do try to scrutinize the claims made by both sides. It's worth noting that on message boards and in my private life, those who are on the right tend to encourage me to scrutinize both sides. Those who lean left seem to scold me a lot for looking into facts, motivations, and half-truths.

Jesus you people are dense. This isn't a 'side' and this isn't a 'claim'. Its a PR campaign being run that is simply denouncing a terrible thing that happened because they know it is good for business to do so. Its just like when some tragedy happens, companies all run ad campaigns about them. The only requirement on your part is to either consume their services or not. What the hells the point of 'scrutinizing' ad campaigns unless you work in academia?

The lack of tolerance of differing views from the left is quite disturbing. One poster compared it to Nazi Germany, but I don't really see that. However, I just finished reading a book about the Cultural Revolution in China (which, if you don't know, was a truly violent event filled with people penning self-criticisms and false confessions while the government punished anyone with the wrong parents for decades. Read about it.) What's happening here really reminds me of that. I almost feel obligated to vote Republican as a protest against the Left. The fact that Biden won over a slate of far left candidates suggests many Democrats are not a fan either, but somehow, no one feels comfortable talking about it except on anonymous message boards.

When I saw the Strava posting, I rolled my eyes but was never tempted to click on it to "Read More." Basically, my thought was, you oppose the violent attack on the capitol? Ya think? I love using Strava, and there's no way I'm deleting my account, but I no longer feel guilty about being a freeloader or tempted to subscribe.

As a side story, my sister is the CEO of a smallish company (about 500 employees). When all the BLM stuff went down last year, she felt obligated to post in support on social media due to her public position.

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The rebuttal to this is for too long white people in this country have prioritized their own sense of comfort over real racial justice reform. It may be politics for you, but for marginalized communities they're fighting for their basic human rights. Did you see the voting lines in black communities this year? I've never waited in line more than 20min to vote. Imagine for a second how exhausting it must be to be black in this country, trying to get everyone's attention over the prejudice and injustice your community faces, and be constantly dismissed. Like, god forbid my demands for basic equality make white people tired. MLK was spot on in that piece about his disappointment with the "white moderate".

Also, please explain why it's exhausting to watch someone else kneel for a 2min song?[/quote]

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There's a big difference between individual people/athletes expressing themselves via kneeling in protest, and a multibillion dollar organization effectively forcing political opinions on athletes and spectators. The problem is that complex social problems are being reduced to quasi-religious platitudes, which are then monetized by big businesses and forced onto society. This is scary and exhausting.

Your post reads like Party propaganda for precisely this reason. It's vague, moralistic, lacks the data and logical reasoning that happen in actual debates, and is meant to bring rojo into line through guilt and shame. You also gloss over the differences between MLK's politics and vision, and the narrow ideological conception of social justice currently being forwarded by a small segment of the illiberal left and their corporate sponsors. In fact, white liberals have more radical views about race (meaning that they are more likely to label particular ideas and actions as racist) than the average Black person.

One of the big problems happening in America right now is that lots of people, across social categories, are suffering from years of free trade deals that have gutted jobs, corporate greed, political polarization brought on by the corporate interests of the mass media and social media companies, and now the economic and human cost of the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite these shared stresses, a single issue--white supremacy (now mutated to mean everything from burning crosses to believing in the value of science and logical thinking)--is continually forced on the public creating ever greater division, a hollowing out of civil liberties (censorship is now good? a rightwing issue?), and resentment among the many white people who are also struggling to make ends meet. The move to politicize everything will only drive us further apart at a time when we desperately need to identify shared values and recognize our common humanity.

What we're witnessing is a consolidation of corporate power fronting as a movement for justice and equality.

steve the addict wrote:

The problem is that anything that does not feed the SJW machine is canceled, banned or blocked. See what happened to Trumpie Twitter and other social media. No free speech anymore. This is modern day nazi Germany and is extremely dangerous. It will ironically only incite more violence, rioting and dangerous behavior/thinking.

Many of you deleting your Strava app complain of the attack on free speech and cancel culture. What do you do when Strava posts something you don’t like? Pot meet kettle.

arunnerinwa wrote:

The lack of tolerance of differing views from the left is quite disturbing.

Really? Is that why there are new posts every day here from 'the right' saying they are burning some articles of clothing, deleting some app, or not shopping somewhere because of a political ad campaign? Because 'the left' is intolerant? Is that what you think?

I feel like the same people whining about "cancel culture" over an off hand comment in poor taste are also whining about companies taking a social stance or perhaps just a pro-democracy stance. Cutting something out of your life because they did or support one thing you don't agree with is the definition of petty.

jyhjkhjk wrote:

arunnerinwa wrote:

The lack of tolerance of differing views from the left is quite disturbing.

Really? Is that why there are new posts every day here from 'the right' saying they are burning some articles of clothing, deleting some app, or not shopping somewhere because of a political ad campaign? Because 'the left' is intolerant? Is that what you think?

Except this wasn’t even a political ad campaign - it was a letter denouncing a failed coup.