#3 400m Runner of All Time Naser Escapes Ban Over Technicality

VroomVroom wrote:

You never change services and have gotten a new number? Heck I still can't remember my new number and give out my old one out by mistake. It happens.

It has not happened to me. Even on my worst days I can give out my correct phone number. And if it was for a job interview, or drug testing, or something else of importance....it DOESN"T happen.

For anyone on this thread that has not heard Victor Conte explain how easy missed testing makes it for athletes, watch this link:

pupil3142 wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Saved by tester incompetence.

actually she was saved by tester competence. She gave the wrong main address, he found the right one, but once at the right address he got confused by the sub addresses. he didnt go through a door he said was locked; she claimed it was just closed and if he had gone through it he would have found her.

she should have been busted for giving the wrong main address, and would have been if the tester had stayed at the incorrect given address.

was she tested? no. why not? wrong and unclear address in a clearly confusing situation.

But Bahrain pay for athletes, so........

Clean athletes should be able to anonymously demand an appeal. How does anyone take this sport seriously?

How was she saved by the tester.

Her reputation is ruined by his/ her incompetence as she was in.

And was it a male tester ; I can’t work that out?

Why did the tester keep looking for her elsewhere as he had no mission issued for this. Or are wada just incompetent.

I have read the actual decision.

David S wrote:

If she can't log into the system and update it herself she shouldn't be competing.

Quite. Or how about, why can't the guy she got to enter her data for her demo it to her so she can do it herself?

Are there any other software programs or sites she is unable to operate or is it just ADAMS?

Salwa Eid Naser probably dirty but far from being the dirtiest athlete on the field.

Her physique and morphology was, by far, the most credible of all the competitors who lined up at last year 400m final.

She is according to various sources, either 1.68m/54kg or 1.67m/50kg which is believable when looking at the picture :

https://bit.ly/35jmnIl

Females tend to be higher responders to the 'androgenic' part of the AAS, yet :

She lacks the "cobra" traps muscles generally seen on androgenized sportswomen.

She does not have the ridiculously lean abs so often seen on female dopers. Remember, body fat on females is a secondary sex characteristic (strong visible muscle bellies that you see on fitness influencers, crossfiters, Sifans, etc .... is not the norm amongst physically active women)

Her arms && shoulders are not overly developped.

I am now reading that Shaunae Miller-Uibo does not understand why SEN has not been banned and want 'answers' from Coe, WADA, etc,....

What I don't understand, is why mrs Miller-Uibo has never been as much suspected as SEN?

Firstly, her physique is much less credible, secondly comparing her progression with SEN's one, it looks like SEN has always been faster than her (on 400m), but most importantly, her current coach, a former inmate, jailed for embezzlement, used to train the likes of :

Tyson Gay

Steve Mullings

Veronica Campbell-Brown

All caught at one point of their career (I am not saying that he was coaching them when they got caught, but that is odd), yet I am led to believe that, her, who is on the same level is somehow a model of probity ?

What I learned from this story is that , testers actually tried to test her, that they regularly travel to Bahrain which means that they are somehow wary of her. If she was really 'valuable', they would have never thrown her name under the bus. The AIU always make their procedures public, but some ADO make them public only when all the legal procedure is done & they can sanction the athletes (which means than when atletes can clear their names throught legal means, it may not be revealed).

Her name is tainted forever, she will be rightly jeered will her competition will be cheered , sponsors will use this to renegotiate their contract with her (this is what they do) meet organizers will give lower appearance fees, etc... She is not really getting away unscathed from this...

Was it a male tester?

4 missed tests. Absolutely a doper. Another screw up by the sport.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/oct/21/miller-uibo-furious-over-naser-doping-decision-as-wada-expresses-concerns

While I think she’s doping I honestly think she has valid reasons for 2 of her missed tests. She should not be banned in my opinion.

I don't think "Knocking on the wrong door" is correct. She basically gave a false address, no phone number and claimed you have t go through another door, which was closed, to get to her. It's total BS her story.

eldanielfire wrote:

I don't think "Knocking on the wrong door" is correct. She basically gave a false address, no phone number and claimed you have t go through another door, which was closed, to get to her. It's total BS her story.

Read the decision before you comment.

Was the tester a male?

rule reader wrote:

eldanielfire wrote:

I don't think "Knocking on the wrong door" is correct. She basically gave a false address, no phone number and claimed you have t go through another door, which was closed, to get to her. It's total BS her story.

Read the decision before you comment.

Was the tester a male?

Typo? You mean testes? Wrong case.

Was the tester a male?

rule reader wrote:

Was the tester a male?

Just checked and it was a male.

What on Earth is going on ; this would be an invalid test request.

What do the testers get paid?

It seems a meanial job (in terms of pay) and that they could be bought off really easy. Not necessarily in a case like this, missed tests, but a clean sample being collected or some other diversion.

Does anyone know who collects samples? The process?

Opinionated guy wrote:

What do the testers get paid?

It seems a meanial job (in terms of pay) and that they could be bought off really easy. Not necessarily in a case like this, missed tests, but a clean sample being collected or some other diversion.

Does anyone know who collects samples? The process?

The DCO; who earns buttons.

In this case it was a male tester sent to collect the urine: staggering.

Yes a male DCO!

ajatipic wrote:

Salwa Eid Naser probably dirty ....

Her name is tainted forever, she will be rightly jeered will her competition will be cheered , sponsors will use this to renegotiate their contract with her (this is what they do) meet organizers will give lower appearance fees, etc... She is not really getting away unscathed from this...

I certainly hope so. After all, she missed three tests in twelve months (plus the suspicious wrong door issue), and only got away with it because of the stupid back-dating rule.

Plus, even that would have been enough for a ban a few years ago, but the rules were relaxed from an 18 month period to a 12 month period for mysterious reasons that help the cheaters.

A male DCO tester to watch a women urinate .... what !

she gave an incorrect address. an address that didn't exist.

she wasn't at the address given.

rule reader wrote:

A male DCO tester to watch a women urinate .... what !

Why is this bit of objectionable stupidity not been commented on?