20mph winds in New York on race day

The fact you didn't break 3 last year wasn't because of the wind.

abdoujaparov wrote:

If all you aim to get out of your marathon is an impressive time that you can brag about then you're exactly right - there are better ways to cash in your training than slogging through tough conditions in NYC.

If you want to test yourself and put more stock in what a performance, and the months of training behind it, mean to you then it's time to embrace the suck.

The thing about the marathon is most people can only run a few a year at a high level so I think the times mean more than in other races since you get so few opportunities to improve them. If this was a 5K, 10K or even half I think it's a different animal.

The nice thing about running is you get your PR for life and no one can take that away from you. 20 years from now all people will remember is the time (unless you are elite), few will remember the tough conditions behind that time.

Sick of Fields wrote:

The fact you didn't break 3 last year wasn't because of the wind.

He also uses the loser excuse of "just running it as a workout"

If you want to do a workout you can do it anywhere, as soon as you pin on a bib, it's a race. Save your excuses.

The more this guy writes, the more full of sh1t he gets.

Sick of Fields wrote:

The fact you didn't break 3 last year wasn't because of the wind.

I know that wasn't the only factor. Obviously my training plan was flawed, which I've switched this year and hopefully will benefit from. Trust me the fact that I can run a 1:20 half and my PR in the marathon is 3:08 bothers me and I've been working hard to fix it.

yep, another one wrote:

Sick of Fields wrote:

The fact you didn't break 3 last year wasn't because of the wind.

He also uses the loser excuse of "just running it as a workout"

If you want to do a workout you can do it anywhere, as soon as you pin on a bib, it's a race. Save your excuses.

The more this guy writes, the more full of sh1t he gets.

I had a 23 miler planned for this weekend. I made a failed attempt to run with Caroline Wozniacki which is the main reason I registered. Why would I race this all out 3 weeks before my goal marathon race?

Stop hijacking threads. No one here cares about some rando struggling to break 3.

I ran the NYC Marathon last year and finished in 2:50:39 to set a PR. I don't recall the wind being a factor at all. I'm sure there was headwind at times, but never enough that I noticed it at all.

Maybe if Reg Fields spent a little more time training and a little less time stalking, he'd have broken 3 hours long ago.

I cannot stand Reg Fields wrote:

I ran the NYC Marathon last year and finished in 2:50:39 to set a PR. I don't recall the wind being a factor at all. I'm sure there was headwind at times, but never enough that I noticed it at all.

Maybe if Reg Fields spent a little more time training and a little less time stalking, he'd have broken 3 hours long ago.

Congrats on your PR last year. I PRed also at that race but the wind was definitely a factor. Even the elites ran slower than usual be use of it. Maybe you PRed despite the wind and could've broken 2:50 elsewhere.

Anyway I'm done "hijacking" this thread, I didnt bring up anything about my personal running until I was personally attacked for the record. Sorry to interrupt the NYC Marathon wind thread.

Wow, in a post in which Reg Fields states he will stop hijacking the original topic, he still tries to brag about his 3 hour + marathon PR.

Letsrun deserves an apology from Reg Fields for his entire existence. And do NOT make a video apology, Reg.

Well, NYC is a 200 foot net downhill after the 140 foot climb in the first mile.

http://www.marathonguide.com/coursemaps/elevationchart.cfm?MIDD=472141102

some other hills, in order:

Clinton Hill +54'/ mile 9

Pulaski Bridge +38'/ 13.1

QB Bridge +150'/mile 15

Willis Ave +30'/mile 19.5

Madison Ave +20'/mile 20.8

Central Park +100'/mile 23.5

Boathouse +30'/mile 24.5

Central Pk So. +25'/mile 25.9

Final 400m +13'/26.2

I did not PR, but totally agree with you re wind having a negative impact last year. Moreover, 2 days out they were predicting similar conditions to this years marathon. That never materialized. There was a breeze, however it was negligible. Good luck to all, but don't make yourselves nuts reading the forecast every hour. Run your race, at your pace, you can't control the wind and you will waste much needed energy focusing on it.

Not exactly Pikes Peak, is it. Though Pikes Peak is a loop, with a net zero.

MarathonMind wrote:

some other hills, in order:

Clinton Hill +54'/ mile 9

Pulaski Bridge +38'/ 13.1

QB Bridge +150'/mile 15

Willis Ave +30'/mile 19.5

Madison Ave +20'/mile 20.8

Central Park +100'/mile 23.5

Boathouse +30'/mile 24.5

Central Pk So. +25'/mile 25.9

Final 400m +13'/26.2

Wow the trolls are on you like stink on a clam boat.

Just ignore. Mom's basement and the men's shelter are both getting good WiFi signal today I guess.

Good luck Sunday it looks awful.

MarathonMind wrote:

some other hills, in order:

Clinton Hill +54'/ mile 9

Pulaski Bridge +38'/ 13.1

QB Bridge +150'/mile 15

Willis Ave +30'/mile 19.5

Madison Ave +20'/mile 20.8

Central Park +100'/mile 23.5

Boathouse +30'/mile 24.5

Central Pk So. +25'/mile 25.9

Final 400m +13'/26.2

In the early years of the five borough race the course went up the 102 street entrance to the east drive. A big climb but I do not remember exactly how much.

At least one year saw the runners mistakenly running up the flight of steps on the left of the 102 entrance and taking more than a handful of yards off the course.

Yeah, going straight up 5th Ave made the course a wee bit easier- you climb the 100' from the circle at 110th St to the Engineer's Gate at 90th over a gradual mile. The old course that was a nasty little climb of about 30' over maybe 200+ meters. Of course you really feel all these hills after mile 23. and why Geoffrey Mutai's 2:05:06 is such an outstanding performance.

nice elevation profile of New York Marathon

http://people.uwec.edu/hartnesg/NYCM-newProfileLOOP.pdf

STFU Reg wrote:

Stop hijacking threads. No one here cares about some rando struggling to break 3.

As if anyone cares about your 2:45 or whatever.

Tip: unless you are running sub 2:10... Nobody cares about your time.

I'm interested in hearing from 2:45 guys, because I am in similar shape right now. 3:10 or whatever Reg Fields ran last year, not so much. If I needed advice from a 3:10 marathoner, I could just ask my wife.

And, Wang, if your wife can run 2:45, I'd love to hear from her as well. Just not Reg Fields.