Lavillenie vs Thiago rematch, Kejelcha going for 12:47 U20 record, And Felix vs Schippers vs Thompson 200m in Zurich

His current personal best is 13:02, and I believe it is from 2013. Given his speed(3:31 for 1500m) and endurance, he is capable of 12:52 without much trouble. But like someone here said, this race in Zuric is not going to be that fast but will be won in around 12:55 - 12:57. The only races going to be fast are the shorter ones like 1500m, 800m and the sprints. And on that note I expect a great race in the 400m hurdles men. Kerron Clement got beat in the last race in Paris by 2015 World champion Nicholas Bett who just got his mojo back in the last two races. In Laucanne Nicholas was in a lively tussle with his country man Boniface Tumoti before Boniface stumbled at the second to last hurdle and was out of the race. Nicholas thought he had the race won but got pipped by another runner at the finish line and ended up second. Boniface sat out the race in Paris. Hoping he is back healthy, the Zuric race should be epic. The rivalry between the two Kenyans will drive this race to mid 47 seconds and Kevin Young's world record from 1992 could be under threat. Hopefully he will be tuned in to watch it. At the end Nicholas wins this race and reclaims his national record.

somebloke wrote:

wtfunny wrote:

And of course Farah isn't going to be there.

can't blame him on that one, really. he will get a sheeeetload of money from the great north run.

It's a problem that the powers that be in TnF are content to have a couple superstar like Usain and Mo show up for the OG and have the public pay attention, and then no longer participate in the sport for the rest of the season.

It's no wonder the stadiums are empty.

You do not know the sport. Jäger has no chance at 12:52. Ever. Jäger has never run 3:31 either. You just make things up apparently.

Well, I didn't bother looking up his 1500m personal best but I knew he was that fast. I would put it back to you that you do not know the sport yourself(for arguing that Jager has no chance to run 12:52). 3000m steeple chase record holder Shaheen ran 1500m probably more consistently than Jager but his best is 3:33 and his 3000m best is 7:32 and guess what his 5000m best is? 12:48! Jager has pretty much the same trajectory. 3:32, 7:35 (from 2012). And before Shaheen hit that 12:48, his best was 13:11. I know your reasoning is that he is white and since American record is only 12:53 and held by a Kenyan American, the only athlete capable of running faster got to be another Kenyan American and no chance a white athlete. Jager like everyone else running in Zuric will most likely not run that fast this year but if he give a little attention to the event next year, trust me, knock that time off.

There's zero chance of Kevin young's world record being threatened, no athlete this year has even gone to 47 low. No way anybody is going to break 47s for the next 10 years at least.

Just you wait, Clement will Blow your mind XD

In reality though I think it's in part that modern day hurdlers who run the 400m aren't that good over the hurdles, even Clement, who has run 47 low still has bad hurdling, which really shows on his last barrier, that reason he won in Rio was he got that barrier correct.

dude chill Kejelcha went 12:53 last year, just ran a sub 7:30, I'm sure hell go after a fast time haha

Field person wrote:

I'm surprised people aren't talking about this, but the Pole vault should be great, Lavillenie claims to be tired, but he looked good in Paris and since he's going up against Thiago again I wonder if he may pull out something special. Speaking of Thiago, was his Rio performance a fluke, or can he go and beat Lavillenie again? and can they take the competition of 6 meters again, that would fun to watch. Thiago could be the future of the pole vault, he's only 23, and has gone over 6 meters, maybe he could get into the 6.10s?

Don't believe those dirty Brazilian age cheats he's at least 40

Thompson goes 21.2 and get a WR

It would be nice for Track and Field and Bolt made an competitive appearance in the post Rio European circuit instead of partying...but then he's got his priorities.

The men's events on the circuit have been kind of week this year, hopefully these last 2 meets prove me wrong.

The point is that no runner on the circuit except perhaps Kejelcha and Gebrihiwet

can run 12:50 (or perhaps dip under). Back in the days when KB ruled,

many more runners could - basically due to EPO.

The current crop of marathon runners are not sufficiently talented to

break 13:00 - heck Kamworor who is by far the fastest track athlete

barely broke 13:00 this year.

Kimetto, Kipsang etc are 13:10 guys, but their running economy and

fat burning are superb=2:03.

I really hope they ask for a fast pace, and actually go for it, it would be great to at least see a 12:40 again.

Jager is not going to break 12:55. He will get smoked in the last lap, which the winner will run in hopefully 55ish and Jager will run in 58-59.

I just really hope the pacers don't go out on 12:50 pace because then the Americans will fall back to 13:10 pace in a second pack, and will kick to a disappointing 13:02.

Ideal race will be a string of runners on 12:55 pace, or 2:35/km. Then Chelimo and Jager can hang with the lead pack

The 5000/10000 crowd need to borrow some ideas from track cycling for the last meets of the season.

- Devil take the hindmost, one guy eliminated on each lap

- cash for leading at 1000,2000,3000,4000

And of course an official televised beer mile for the 1500 boys.

With Gatlin apparently recovering from his injury there's not much "spark" in the men's sprints. Yeah they miss him putting out some stellar times in those meets.

yyy wrote:

The point is that no runner on the circuit except perhaps Kejelcha and Gebrihiwet

can run 12:50 (or perhaps dip under). Back in the days when KB ruled,

many more runners could - basically due to EPO.

The current crop of marathon runners are not sufficiently talented to

break 13:00 - heck Kamworor who is by far the fastest track athlete

barely broke 13:00 this year.

Kimetto, Kipsang etc are 13:10 guys, but their running economy and

fat burning are superb=2:03.

Due to EPO?

So we have the 800m WR is relatively new and people are running 1:42 now like it's nothing, the 1500m WR is under a constant assault and the marathon's WR gets pushed down constantly yet somehow when people ran fast in the 5000m it was "due to EPO". Those runners may not be trained to run sub 13:00, not by a longshot, but you're delusional if you think that they aren't capable of it. You're post is so fvcking stupid I don't even know how to respond.

Is there any real inside info at play here or article to reference, or is this just pure speculation (stated as if fact in the thread title) ?

I haven't seen anything anywhere saying the pace is to be set up for 12:48 or anything in that range, and to me it seems pretty unlikely.

Not to mention, even if such a pace is requested (my the meet promoters or any athletes themselves) who knows if the rabbits can deliver it, or if the field would go with it. I seem to remember at least one DL 5K this year where the pace was set to be 7:45 at 3K, then only 7:55 or so was hit (with the rabbit looking like was struggling to even manage that).

Last week in Lausanne, the rabbits were supposedly set for 2:43 at 1K and 4:05 at 1500 for the women's 5K and what were the actual splits? 2:55 and 4:25 ... Men's 800 in Paris; 49.5 and 1:15.00 requested, 50.1 and 1:16.4 actual.

If Kejelcha wins he gets 20 points; he is currently 8 behind Edris. Given $40,000 at stake and the stacked field, it seems more likely to be pretty much a (disappointing) sit and kick style race; winning time just sub-13 or low-13s.

Having said all that, I'd love to see a very fast race and be proven wrong. There hasn't been a truly fast 5K this year and we usually get 12:50-54 as a world lead in most recent years.

According to IAAF scoring tables Kejelcha's 7:28.19 should be worth a 12:48-high (1251 points is 7:28.21 and 12:48.93).

As to the guy above suggesting Kevin Young's 400h WR may be under threat ... what are you smoking? haha

The only WR I see under threat in Zurich is the women's 800 ... it's Semenya's for the taking, if she really wants it.

In that women's 3k (not 5k) Dibaba supposed asked for that pace to go after the WR. It was very stupid and it was almost expected for them to not go with it. I don't think they will ask for a WR attempt in the men's 5k here.