Grant Fisher

Honest he is not even that good. He is alright but not without training tbh

Never seems to really commit to the win. Terrific runner, but never seems to just simply go for it. Even outdoors needed doublers and somewhat easy pace.

The guy is in his junior year of electrical engineering at Stanford. I think he's probably hitting the books pretty hard. If he decides to pursue running after graduation, I bet we see dramatic improvement.

runjoeyrun wrote:...and the indoor 3k. I was surprised he didn't try to make the pace faster with Knight and Trouard doubling back from the 5k.

He SHOULD have made the pace faster, but it was a championship race. And we all know that championship races are nothing more than a totally gutless display of cowards who refuse to show any more sack than it takes to sprint for 400m or less. Champions of these types of "races" are champs in name only.

fresh fish wrote:

The guy is in his junior year of electrical engineering at Stanford. I think he's probably hitting the books pretty hard. If he decides to pursue running after graduation, I bet we see dramatic improvement.

You obviously know nothing about Stanford's engineering program. It is a well regarded program, but not particularly time consuming compared to the other top ranked programs. It is more time consuming than it used to be, since they got in trouble about 10 years ago for giving Cs that should have been Fs, but still shouldn't be harder to run and EE at Stanford than most other programs at Stanford.

I think Grant is a potentially great runner who just happens to have had an indoor championship that wasn't quite to his level. It happens. If it didn't, this sport would be boring anyway.

above post is accurate, he has been more focused on school right now which affected his training a little indoors

also have to remember this was his first indoor season since high school and he was a little rusty I know; I'm not sure if hes still mentally a little off indoors either since that NBIN mile where he tripped as well although he hasn't mentioned it....

http://www.mlive.com/sports/flint/index.ssf/2018/02/grand_blancs_grant_fisher_name_1.html

fresh fish wrote:

The guy is in his junior year of electrical engineering at Stanford. I think he's probably hitting the books pretty hard. If he decides to pursue running after graduation, I bet we see dramatic improvement.

Almost exact same quote used as an excuse for Ben Saarel's less than stellar performances.

Phishing wrote:

fresh fish wrote:

The guy is in his junior year of electrical engineering at Stanford. I think he's probably hitting the books pretty hard. If he decides to pursue running after graduation, I bet we see dramatic improvement.

Almost exact same quote used as an excuse for Ben Saarel's less than stellar performances.

You do know that Ben Sareel has been battling with ulcerative colitis among other things throughout most of his collegiate career. He's done remarkably well for himself considering the circumstances.

Just goes to show how little we know...

Candy Azz wrote:

runjoeyrun wrote:...and the indoor 3k. I was surprised he didn't try to make the pace faster with Knight and Trouard doubling back from the 5k.

He SHOULD have made the pace faster, but it was a championship race. And we all know that championship races are nothing more than a totally gutless display of cowards who refuse to show any more sack than it takes to sprint for 400m or less. Champions of these types of "races" are champs in name only.

Sounds like someone got out kicked at their conference meet.

runjoeyrun wrote:

Anyone surprised by the year Grant Fisher is having after winning the NCAA 5k title last spring? Off the podium at XC nats and the indoor 3k. I was surprised he didn't try to make the pace faster with Knight and Trouard doubling back from the 5k.

(Yes, i know he ran the mile leg of the DMR, but even losing to the ND walk on frosh was surprising)

Yes, I am surprised someone of his talent is not winning almost every race he enters. I know he's been a bit banged up, but is it just me or do you get a feeling Milt babies him a bit? It's like he's so careful not to ruin him that you look up and it's his senior year......

He's far from a bust and still has plenty of time for national titles. I'm sure academics are a factor and he is a good kid, but I feel like he's been under such careful watch ever since high school because he's such a talent. Time to unleash the beast that we know he can be.

Has he been a bit banged up? I thought it was just the hip injury last year?

In any event, I don't exactly begrudge Milt for babying Fisher. He learned that was what worked best for McGorty, and kept him healthy to unleash his talent (McGorty takes the blame for his own later injury, since he didn't inform Milt about it). Why not do the same for Fisher? If Milt pushed Fisher too hard, the board would never let him hear the end of it.

This thread is why I rarely ever peek in @ LR any more.

Why? The posters who said dumb things about Saarel and Fisher were roundly criticized, and this is mostly positive about a great collegiate runner.

The college ranks have been very stacked over the last few years and now still, we’ve had Ches, and Justyn among others.... not easy to win bu races vs those guys

Like I said above just indoors and there was a few things holding him back I feel there

I would like to see him time trial I bit more because I feel it’d get his confidence even higher knowing he can run some fast times, but he just isn’t that type really at least yet

do you even electrical engineer, bro

it's super difficult. winter quarter is when most people take heavy classloads. cut the guy some slack.

Phishing wrote:

fresh fish wrote:

The guy is in his junior year of electrical engineering at Stanford. I think he's probably hitting the books pretty hard. If he decides to pursue running after graduation, I bet we see dramatic improvement.

Almost exact same quote used as an excuse for Ben Saarel's less than stellar performances.

My guess is any one of you lonely inadequate jogging fools would want to be Grant Fisher or Ben Saarlel, if you could have your sorry lives over again.

Let’s see... both high school studs, both have great results in the international competitive NCAA, both are brilliant, both on full rides, both can run faster than you could ever dream of.

Flotrack just posted the entrant list for the Stanford invite. Grant Fisher is not running. Here is free link:

https://www.flotrack.org/events/6092688-2018-stanford-invitational/entries

Too bad Fisher's not in there. He's a great talent. He'll be back.

Drew Hunter's signed up for the 800m and 1500m. Nigel Amos in the 800m. Brandon and Sean McGorty in the 1500m, along with Prakel and Stanovsek, among others.

It’s really too bad that Saarel has struggled with health issues in college. His senior year in high school showed incredible potential. Only running around 70 miles per week. He ran 4:02 in the dream mile with a big last lap, in windy conditions, to beat some real studs. Had a similar big kick in his 3200 PR. Also ran a solo 8:4x 3200 at his state meet.

The point I’m trying to make, and tying it back to Fisher, is that 4-5 years ago many would have assumed that Saarel would go to CU, have a successful NCAA career and turn professional. Given his career, that’s looking unlikely. I would love to see Ben join the Saucony Freedom TC with Time Broe. How many opportunities will be there for Saarel when he graduates? Probably not many.

Everybody assumes that Fisher will go pro when he graduates but if he continues to struggle the next 2 or so years will he have the opportunity to sign a decent contract?