So people are outraged by Trump not committing to accept election results? Remind me, did Al Gore accept in 2000?

Gore won the popular vote.

You could avoid a lot of embarrassment by 1) googling "false equivalency," 2) learning some history on the 2000 election, and 3) deleting this thread before too many people see it.

Zev wrote:

Gore won the popular vote.

What does that have to do with anything? Bush won the electoral vote.

So if Trump wins the popular vote, you are fine with him contesting it?

It just amazes me that people are expressing this faux outrage. If you hate Trump, I get it hate him. Hell George Wasahington was a freaking slave holder as were many of the Founding Fathers. Hate whoever you want but at least be intellectually honest.

This argument about 'not accepting election results' when he has no idea what might happen is absurd.

rojo wrote:

This argument about 'not accepting election results' when he has no idea what might happen is absurd.

+1

Gore wasn't going around saying it was rigged even before the election. Florida was close enough for an automatic recount. Big difference. Trump is basically working up the uneducated to hate the government even more.

You're exactly right, rojo.

Let's also remember that Donald Trump has hired his own independent statisticians that show him up 60/30/10 (Trump/Hillary/Undecided) nationally.

Gore could have made a much bigger stink about it...he gave up much more easily than many people would have liked. democrat voters in general were pretty damn pissed about it and didn't let it go easily.

I voted Gore in 2000 and while I'm not as sore as people that identify as democrats (I'm an independent), I wish that it would have been enough for us to ditch the electoral college.

I'm with you on this one Rojo.

I was pretty liberal during the 2004 election (I was 18) and I was 100% on board with the idea that Bush stole the election from Gore in 2000.

It's embarrassing to see that people are "outraged" that Trump would have his opinion.

I'm also never going to vote for someone because of how I think they would handle losing.

Nobody likes the Dodgers

People are probably jumping the gun a little bit and assuming Trump may contest the results even if they show some sort of near landslide as the polls currently indicate. I can't envision a scenario where HRC wins by 6 or 7, with a 100+ majority in the EC and Trump has a justifiable reason for not accepting the results. Of course, he may sill do so (some of his recent rhetoric sort of implies this) and this would not be a good thing.

Certainly Trump (or HRC) would not necessarily be out of line if it's very close and there's some Bush/Gore type scenario.

Also, Gore did accept:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyKlcQ_HiD4

I understand the thrust of your argument of course, but you might next time want to restate your subject heading.

It's funny that his running mate and his own daughter have said they would accept the results. You should probably explain to them why they're wrong too.

So I taped the debate on CNN. I'm now watching the post-debate analysis. I'm like falling out of my chair.

They are making it a huge deal of Trump's statement. I thought it was maybe just a twitter thing.

Wolf Blitzer just started his post-race analysis by saying, "Clearly the headline" is Donald Trump saying he may not accept the election result. He then added, "It's truly extraordinary. I've never heard anything like that."

The other guy acted like the statement disqualified him from being president.

Really?

Gore did exactly that in 2000. Trump didn't call for mob violence. He just said he'd wait to see what happens. If a president lost an election due to fraud, I would think it would be the most American thing in history to contest it.

There was a thread earlier today from a liberal guy confused about how Trump could say the election was rigged.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7782463&page=1

I explained to him that he meant the media is so in the tank for his opposition it's hard for him to win. This is the #1 example of that.

FYI: Al Gore is not running for president.

You do realize that the odds of him saying something insane are a 100x higher than him making an appeal to the SCOTUS, yes?

Yes?

Gore contested how votes were counted. You surely remember 'Hanging Chad' and the confusing ballots in some counties?

He did not claim the government, media or whoever Trump will blame 'rigged' the election. He accepted the SC decision and the validity of the election.

zephito wrote:

People are probably jumping the gun a little bit and assuming Trump may contest the results even if they show some sort of near landslide as the polls currently indicate. I can't envision a scenario where HRC wins by 6 or 7, with a 100+ majority in the EC and Trump has a justifiable reason for not accepting the results. Of course, he may sill do so (some of his recent rhetoric sort of implies this) and this would not be a good thing.

Certainly Trump (or HRC) would not necessarily be out of line if it's very close and there's some Bush/Gore type scenario.

Also, Gore did accept:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyKlcQ_HiD4

I understand the thrust of your argument of course, but you might next time want to restate your subject heading.

Gore accepted the results a month later - in December.

All Trump said tonight is, "I'll look at it at the time." That's exactly what Gore did. He looked at it election night and decided to contest the Florida results. He didn't concede and the country's checks and balance system worked perfectly.

Trump didn't ask for mob violence or anything of the sort. The media's reaction to his statement is exactly why this guy has the support of at least 40% of the country.

rojo wrote:

So after getting irate that the Dodgers were getting crushed, I couldn't watch anymore and started watching the debate on tape.

I'm all with people if they are #NeverHillary #NeverTrump. I can see why people think both shouldn't be president. That being said, I can't stand the hypocrisy of some of those against Trump.

As I was watching the debate, I was also scrolling through twitter.

People are apparently (at least on twitter) outraged that Trump said he won't automatically accept the election results. Why?

Please correct me if I'm mistaken but didn't Al Gore contest the 2000 results?

Am I wrong?

https://twitter.com/germanotes/status/788941447357751297

It amazes me how people (on both sides of the aisle) will just accept a certain position as it makes them feel good even though it's the exact opposite of what they've done themselves in the past.

I see your point, but understand that Trump is down in the poll of polls by over 6 points. Fox News has him down 7. If Trump even came close to winning I would agree that something isn't right. Based on polls this should be one of the biggest shelackings in history.

Another point is that every time Trump has lost in his life he has refused to take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. As Elizabeth Warren said "put on your big boy pants". Trump's a beta cuck.

Many of Trump's supporters have claimed they will start a revolution if Trump loses not matter what the election results are.

Republican vice presidential nominee Mike Pence advised a supporter against staging a “revolution” in the event that Hillary Clinton is elected president.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/dont-say-that-mike-pence-rejects-supporters-suggestion-for-revolution-if-trump-loses-165357927.html

Conservatives Warn Of Revolution, Civil War if Trump Loses

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http://bizstandardnews.com/2016/08/14/conservatives-warn-of-revolution-civil-war-if-trump-loses/

Pat Buchanan: If Trump Loses, There Could Be A Revolution

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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/pat-buchanan-if-trump-loses-there-could-be-a-revolution/

Gore had the right to protest the vote and see if he actually won Florida or not, as the election hinged on that state. It is by no means anywhere equivalent to Trump protesting every state he lost even if it was by a million votes and even if he lost the electoral college 400 to 138.