There is nothing anomalous about Gatlin sprinting his best at age 30

You fvcking hypocrite!!!! You'll throw drug accusations at everyone in the world and then you get on here and DEFEND JUSTIN "TWICE-CONVICTED DRUG CHEAT" GATLIN?!?!?! That's rich!

Shut the F U C K up!!!!

shut the F U C K up!!!!! wrote:

You fvcking hypocrite!!!! You'll throw drug accusations at everyone in the world and then you get on here and DEFEND JUSTIN "TWICE-CONVICTED DRUG CHEAT" GATLIN?!?!?! That's rich!

Shut the F U C K up!!!!

... Sam Kinison lives!!

Surin was 31 or 32

It's more the fact that he is a cynical drug cheat and he's come back as faster or even faster than when he was dirty.

Still having problems with your reading comprehension, I see.

I'm "defending" nobody. What I ACTUALLY said was: "Gatlin running 9.80 at 30 is absolutely not anomalous, and by itself is not good evidence of current PED use. The question of whether he is currently enjoying lasting benefits from prior PED use remains unresolved."

I re-iterate that statement, and add that it required a +1.8 wind for him to do it.

Get a life, shut.

Maybe drugs just got better as their careers went on. Sprinters should not be peaking at 30 unless they were not training right before or are dopers. There is a good chance that all of those guys doped.

"Sprinters should not be peaking at 30 unless they were not training right before or are dopers."

Really? What evidence do you have to support that suggestion?

"There is a good chance that all of those guys doped."

Really? What evidence do you have to support that suggestion?

Honestly I have no evidence so I should not say there is a good chance but it is a possible explanation. A lot of athletes dope and I am not accusing anyone of doping but guys like Gatlin do not exactly have a good history when it comes to doping. If he found some new drugs that can't be caught I do not think his integrity would hold him back. For most people they are at there physical peak in their mid twenties and times show this.

I disagree with the suggestion that most male athletes are at their physical peak in their mid twenties and times show this.

Male sprinters can, and do, get stronger toward 30. They might not be able to consistently put up their best times as they might have been able to do in their mid-20's, but they can certainly deliver a few that are faster.

Like I said, there are lots of factors, including training smarter, knowing the lay of the land, not freaking out, etc.

Even the term "physical peak" is misleading. Clearly, the measure of sprinting is time to 100m, and that is what we're talking about. Clean guys, in my experience, get much stronger, for instance, as they hit their late 20's and early 30's...whether they get faster to 100m is another question. Many do. Kim Collins just recently PR'd in the 60m, at age 34 or 35.

I DO NOT discount the possibility of doping, at any age, including the current incarnation of Gatlin--I merely point out that his 9.80 (+1.8) at age 30 is not, by itself, good evidence of current doping.

You could add Linford Christie to that as well

He was doping well into old age like the rest of them

Taking years out of the sport should have affected Gatlin more than it has

After being caught twice he should have been banned for life anyway.

I agree about Gatlin, but Linford Christie was an obvious drug cheat, and that gold medal is the dirtiest in the 100m since Johnson was stripped.

That obvious fact alone makes me question everything you say UK, if you're that nationalistic about some doper who isn't even British.

Don't forget Michael Johnson

Also Surin and Bailey are an acception imo because they started sprinting much later than most do, 21 for Bailey I believe and 17 or 18 for Surin, although he started with the long jump

SkyArt wrote:

Also Surin and Bailey are an acception imo because they started sprinting much later than most do, 21 for Bailey I believe and 17 or 18 for Surin, although he started with the long jump

Yes, Surin was 21 or 22 when he gave up the long jump

Lets get this started wrote:

I agree about Gatlin, but Linford Christie was an obvious drug cheat, and that gold medal is the dirtiest in the 100m since Johnson was stripped.

That obvious fact alone makes me question everything you say UK, if you're that nationalistic about some doper who isn't even British.

What the hell are you talking about my post said Christie was doping well into old age

By the way did you know the registration plate on Gatlins car is 'Juice'