Female Olympic champion gymnastics coach suspended for 8 yrs for verbal and emotional abusing including fat-shaming

Even coaches at the highest level can't berate athletes or fat shame. They can only coach what they are given and its on the athletes themselves to decide if they need to lose weight to take it to the next level, step up their training (or not), etc. The takeaway is that the athletes are in charge, not the coach. A coach's job is to offer advice on training, organize training, and lead training only and perhaps stop athletes from getting in over their heads and injuring themselves, not tell athletes how to live. You're a crap coach if you have an injured athlete who's place can't be taken by a healthy athlete.

totally agree rojo. people are just people.

It depends on whether there are more male or female coaches and whether there is a statistical difference between them in how they treat their athletes. We know that a lot more male coaches are sexual abusers. Fat shaming is probably endemic to female athletics, as well as dance. I recall seeing a pre-teen ballet assistant in my daughter's ballet class when she was 4 or 5 years old patting kids' bellies to make them suck in their tiny stomachs during class.

With regard to that story, I objected to the teacher and program about making little, mostly underweight, girls feeling shame about their bodies already and predictably they then declined to move her up to the next level even though she was performing well and following instructions, essentially shutting her out of their esteemed program, which was fine with me but which upset her for a long time. That's the stick they use in every sport to push girls into accepting unacceptable treatment, accept it or lose out of a strong developmental program.

As a former D1 athlete I can remember to this day when our school's coach made the comment to few of the stars of team that we would be pretty good if we only had a 5th runner. I was a freshman and the #5 man. The coach was a jerk and became an even more famous jerk later. I should have known he was a jerk when he pulled up in his Porsche to sign me.

She sounds mentally unwell - threatening to commit suicide if girls left her squad?

track chick wrote:

She sounds mentally unwell - threatening to commit suicide if girls left her squad?

Aren't most coaches? (Including football and basketball here)

First, Alberto Salazar isn’t a white man. HIS LAST NAME IS SALAZAR. Second, the allegations against Salazar were based on what he said and did NOT that he was a man. Third, NO ONE said that female coaches aren’t capable of abusing their athletes. I also don’t understand your argument of “many people are jerks to their athletes.” What does that statement prove?

Seriously WTF

Salazar was born in Cuba, but yeah Rojo I guess he’s white

ready made wrote:

First, Alberto Salazar isn’t a white man. HIS LAST NAME IS SALAZAR.

He is indeed a white man.

He is from Cuba of Spanish descent. Give him a DNA test and he’s probably 99% Caucasian.

What It do wrote:

ready made wrote:

First, Alberto Salazar isn’t a white man. HIS LAST NAME IS SALAZAR.

He is indeed a white man.

He is from Cuba of Spanish descent. Give him a DNA test and he’s probably 99% Caucasian.

But you just said he's of Spanish descent

Rojo, it was very clear (from the italics Female in the post title, and in the post itself) that you intend to hijack an allegation of abuse to suit your agenda? If you weren't hung up on men being persecuted, you wouldn't have posted this article at all. I'm not trying to virtue signal, I'm saying I don't like what you're doing here. You might think you're trying to start a discussion, but I just see a fragile ego looking to patch things up. You are willing to accept any kind of protection for your threatened ego - including hiding behind a real and disturbing case of abuse (and it says nothing about Salazar, those allegations can exist right alongside these)

I can see your ego baby wrote:

Rojo, it was very clear (from the italics Female in the post title, and in the post itself) that you intend to hijack an allegation of abuse to suit your agenda? If you weren't hung up on men being persecuted, you wouldn't have posted this article at all. I'm not trying to virtue signal, I'm saying I don't like what you're doing here. You might think you're trying to start a discussion, but I just see a fragile ego looking to patch things up. You are willing to accept any kind of protection for your threatened ego - including hiding behind a real and disturbing case of abuse (and it says nothing about Salazar, those allegations can exist right alongside these)

100% agreed

Maybe it would be appropriate, but 8 years is effectively a lifetime ban.

White men get to do this:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-rally-shelter-place-order-spills-capitol-building/story?id=70432928

The only agenda I have is I wish society would worry mainly about the rightness or wrongness of people's actions rather than their race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Do I

When the Salazar - Cain stuff came out, so much of it was presented with the backdrop "We have to protect all of these little girls from these evil men."

I thought to myself. 'No, we need to protect all athletes from asshole coaches. I'm all for more female coaches but I've heard of plenty of horrific acts by women's coaches as well."

Now do I think a male coach is statically more likely to be an ass than a woman? Probably but so what?

Is Jerry Schumacher next!!!!?

Just revealed he fat-shamed Solinsky into a 26:59!!

At least in cycling, when the debate to increase a ban from two years it was toyed with the idea of 8 year bans but it was concluded that it would be unfair for the athletes if the purpose of a ban was not only punitive but give an athlete an opportunity to rehabilitate. Thus a second offense carries an 8 year ban, a third one a lifetime ban.

As we know some athletes are unrepentant sinners as was the case of career doper Ricardo Ricco, a textbook example of idiocy and cheating.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Maybe it would be appropriate, but 8 years is effectively a lifetime ban.

Depending on age yes. Some people are pure age freaks and can keep going for a long time. Remember Alejandro Valverde in cycling and Bernard Hopkins in boxing?