Austrian Runner claims 28:28 road 10k at 174 lbs

BiggerThanMottram wrote:

I'm not questioning the performance, but rather interested in why his BMI is supposed to be higher than Mottram and Solinsky even though they looked a lot bulkier.

Maybe Solinsky, but Mottram was definitely not bulkier. He was tall skinny and all 'legs and arms'. If anything he stood out as being gangly for a runner.

Great performance. 174 is not all that heavy for a 6'2" guy, and road 10ks are faster than track 10ks now.

It's the shoes.

I am an inch shorter and weight the same but look a lot heavier. I would have guessed he was in the 155-60 range.

About the height weight of a lot of the top triathletes at kona. Definitely has the run down, he should give the triathlon a try.

you're used to seeing solinsky and mottram running next to a bunch of 115 lb kenyans. by themselves they aren't that big

Thanks for shearing this info.

All I have to say is look at how big Centro Sr was back in the day.

No Way! I am 6 ft2 176 atm. I have way more muscle than this guy, as well as a little belly fat. He is using a broken scale, he looks like I do when I weigh 155-160.

I ran a 16:07 5K at 6'0 165 give or take a pound or two. Thats 175 at 6'2. 16:07 5k equals like 33:30-34:00 10k so not even in the same ball park but I think it's believable.

That is heavy for an elite, but fine for a serious amateur runner or college athlete. This just isn't quite as fun as watching Nick Bare try to break 3 in the marathon.

Rupp fan wrote:

That is heavy for an elite, but fine for a serious amateur runner or college athlete. This just isn't quite as fun as watching Nick Bare try to break 3 in the marathon.

True. Do you think Nick will get there? He's still super jacked and carrying a ton of extra weight

Rhodium Nights wrote:

True. Do you think Nick will get there? He's still super jacked and carrying a ton of extra weight

I think his 3:24 was phenomenal. Retired NFL guys usually struggle to break 4 even though they are still late 30s and early 40s. He can obviously improve his awful pacing. I would love to see him relax and chat the first 15 miles with the 3:10 pace group and go from there. But to break 3, he is likely just too big. I have seen him rep 500 pounds on squats looking relaxed. That is a huge amount of muscle that doesn't help much in running. We don't need huge butts and quads.

I feel like he already won though. He proved that extremely fit muscular guys can still have great endurance. I think he earned a lot of respect on letsrun with that performance.

Rupp fan wrote:

Rhodium Nights wrote:

True. Do you think Nick will get there? He's still super jacked and carrying a ton of extra weight

I think his 3:24 was phenomenal. Retired NFL guys usually struggle to break 4 even though they are still late 30s and early 40s. He can obviously improve his awful pacing. I would love to see him relax and chat the first 15 miles with the 3:10 pace group and go from there. But to break 3, he is likely just too big. I have seen him rep 500 pounds on squats looking relaxed. That is a huge amount of muscle that doesn't help much in running. We don't need huge butts and quads.

I feel like he already won though. He proved that extremely fit muscular guys can still have great endurance. I think he earned a lot of respect on letsrun with that performance.

Yeah for him to go out at 6:30 pace for the first 10k was completely baffling. What the hell was he thinking? And it's even more bizarre cause he has a coach who worked with him on pacing, intervals, diet, etc... I guess he let the race day adrenaline take over.

I think you're right though..3:24 to sub 3 is a lot more difficult than 4:XX to 3:24 (his previous PR jump was something like that) and he might have to cut a lot more weight before he can even break 3:10

I’m 6’0 and 168 ish right now. I still am skinny compared to most people, but not most serious runners.

This guy is a pro athlete; I’m sure he’s leaner than me.

I am 6'0, 135-140 in the glory days, 150-155 now. Have run with both Solinsky and Mottram. They were lean guys - especially Mottram - and felt like they both had probably lower body fat percentage than me. Solinsky was muscular, but looked significantly leaner (5lbs or so) in 2010-11 before he broke down.

I think the guy before who said they just look enormous in comparison to 5'5/115 Africans is right on.

werwe wrote:

No Way! I am 6 ft2 176 atm. I have way more muscle than this guy, as well as a little belly fat. He is using a broken scale, he looks like I do when I weigh 155-160.

Even at the same height everyone has their own body composition. Bone density etc.

fake.

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Rhodium Nights wrote:

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Yeah for him to go out at 6:30 pace for the first 10k was completely baffling. What the hell was he thinking? And it's even more bizarre cause he has a coach who worked with him on pacing, intervals, diet, etc... I guess he let the race day adrenaline take over.

I think you're right though..3:24 to sub 3 is a lot more difficult than 4:XX to 3:24 (his previous PR jump was something like that) and he might have to cut a lot more weight before he can even break 3:10

You said it yourself...he did 6:30 pace to start. That doesn't mean he was in "3:24 shape." If he went out say 7 flat, then he might have found that he was in the 305 to 310 shape, and from there, not so bad to get to sub 3.