lmb wrote:
Mom's basement?? I can afford to eat the cost of a race entry in the midst of a pandemic. I am also probably twice your age. I have directed quite a few races and can tell you most of your entry fee has already been spent. You should also register your name.
We hear this all the time when the subject of refunds comes up but there are never any specifics so maybe you could answer some questions about how the money has been spent. Or maybe you can't but here goes.
I've read many times that the two biggest race expenses are liability insurance and hiring police for traffic control. Is that true? If so, both of those expenses vanish so why can't the portion of entry fees that be refunded?
Races make profits these days, at least big ones do and generally have a list of charities they give race proceeds to. How much of an entry fee goes to these charities as a rule and why can't that portion of an entry fee be refunded?
All races get local sponsors. How much of the cost of putting on the race are typically covered by sponsors rather than by entry fees? Do the sponsors get refunds?
Cherry Blossom is giving refunds. Boston is going to now as well. Both races were to happen well ahead of Grandma's so if Grandma's has already spent most of people's entry fees and can't refund them why is this not the case for Cherry Blossom and Boston and other races that are issuing refunds?
If Grandma's has already spent "most" of people's entry fees why can they not refund however much they haven't spent? If they can offer a 20% reduction for next year's entry why can't they refund at least 20% of people's fees?
That's all for my questions but I'll add this. I do understand that people entered knowing the entry said "no refunds." I have always thought that applied to changing your mind and deciding not to run even though the race was happening. I suspect a lot of other people thought that as well and that we were incorrect. Maybe saying "no refunds" on an entry form legally releases races from the need to refund entry fees if the race doesn't happen but just because a thing is legal doesn't mean its morality isn't questionable. I'm not sure runners wanting refunds for races that don't happen is any more "entitled" than race directors deciding to keep entry fees for those non happening races.