Walmsley runs 5x5k workout at 2:08 MP

Exactly. Jimbo threads always get multiple pages of replies so obviously people are interested in them. How dare people discuss one of the sports most well known names in the lead up to an eagerly anticipated race. Imagine!

wah wah free advertising. Surely you have better things to be worried about. Jesus wept.

#hoka #vaporfly #nike #justdoit #justbuyit

shootpost wrote:

Doug Heffernan wrote:

Brojos, can we start immediately deleting these threads or banning the person posting these? They're pathetic, and spam at this point. We don't need these after every workout or big week that Jim has. I wouldn't think Walmsley would post these as self-promotion, but rather some sad fan-boy constantly refreshing Strava to see what Jim has done. It's about as bad as all the Vapor Fly threads. This is tons of free advertising for Hoka/Walsmley's brand just like all the Vapor Fly threads are tons of free advertising for Nike.

For me its more interesting than most of the boards.

Its cool talking about these workouts, what others are doing, and predicting what Jim can do. It is actually all very insightful to elite marathoning.

Also you are ugly.

I agree. He is bringing a lot of ultra fans to the elite marathon world, and a huge reason for that is his transparency in training.

Ultra > Marathon wrote:

I just hope he tapers!!!

That is his taper . Guy is a VO 2 monster .

Doug Heffernan wrote:

Brojos, can we start immediately deleting these threads or banning the person posting these? They're pathetic, and spam at this point. We don't need these after every workout or big week that Jim has. I wouldn't think Walmsley would post these as self-promotion, but rather some sad fan-boy constantly refreshing Strava to see what Jim has done. It's about as bad as all the Vapor Fly threads. This is tons of free advertising for Hoka/Walsmley's brand just like all the Vapor Fly threads are tons of free advertising for Nike.

Agreed. As a libertarian, these threads should definitely be banned. This is simply false advertising that is limiting my Freedom of Speech and harmful to My Family.

Doh Bird wrote:

other options wrote:

My wife ran a 91 HM then went on to run a 2:58 marathon. People she runs with can beat her in every distance until they hit the marathon. In the marathon...it is not the fastest runner that always wins...it is the runner that slows down the least. I am sure the Walmsley fans are just saying...he has enough speed when combined with his proclivity for endurance that he is in the fight. My wife’s fastest 2 HMs are inside her fastest marathon.

No offense but if this is true, then all it means is that your wife apparently doesn't know how to race a HM properly.

No offense taken...or the more obvious option....when she runs a half she is using it as a workout and does not care.

Source: my @ss

5x5k at that pace is impressive, no doubt. But like a previous poster said, it's way easier when taking walking rest. If he replicated the workout with 3 minutes at a moderate pace for rest (6:00-7:00 per mile pace) then I'd say it puts him up there. But with the walking rest, it's tough to say how good this really is.

Got discharged for cheating at Air Farce. Got a DUI. What more could he hide? Will have to taper down for the OTs. He won't have his superhuman strength by then I predict

shootpost wrote:

Tmirror wrote:

He has mind blowing recoveries! 50km Long Run very fast and very close to his half marathon 21km at 1:02 race in Phoenex, but also during high km weeks. And now this 5 x 5km.

HOW DOES HE RECOVER SO FAST?

A incredible training block like he is having right now, clean come race. Hmmmmm.

I'm always late on the draw. Has anyone suggested Walms incorporate the 5×18 into his training regimen?

what am i missing wrote:

oldtymerz wrote:

What a bad post.

5x5k at MP is an incredible workout.

He’s a great runner, but...

If Jim did the 5 x 5K with zero rest, it would be worth a 2:12 marathon

If I do a HM at marathon pace two or three weeks before a marathon, that’s “an incredible workout”? A HM at MP seems harder than 5 x 5K at MP. So how is 5 x 5K an “incredible workout”?

So you believe Jim’s marathon pace is a 2:08 marathon? You either believe that or this was run at almost half marathon pace. You can’t have it both ways.

I think Jim’s biggest problem is he has no idea how to taper. He is getting in really good shape, but it is most likely he will leave his best days on strava.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Kind of a stupid workout. Repeat miles would be much better. I've never heard of an elite runner doing 5×5K.

Kind of a stupid post.

Francis Sobotka wrote:

I skimmed through the strava of Jim and Scott Fauble and put this spreadsheet together.

Of course Jim crushes him in total mileage

Exactly.

Francis Sobotka wrote:

but I reckon Scott has the higher quality workouts.

I'm not so sure, as applied to the task at hand. It would be interesting to compare if your spreadsheet was updated.

Francis Sobotka wrote:

I skimmed through the strava of Jim and Scott Fauble and put this spreadsheet together. I was curious to see what Jim's training looks like side by side with more conventional marathon training. I chose Fauble simply because he came up first when I searched "top marathon runners on strava".

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_UfEorJy95Hj2qlIBGlSu-fANp2SPqw2bMiijiy4R9M/edit?usp=sharing

Not the prettiest spreadsheet in the world but you get the idea. Of course Jim crushes him in total mileage but I reckon Scott has the higher quality workouts. That new years day session and the 16 x 1 mile were hotter than anything Jim could handle.

Not sure what we learn from this other than that I have too much spare time on my hands.

Another point is why you think Jim's approach is any less "conventional", since a bunch of mileage actually is THE staple of conventional marathon training. So if one actually wants to compare Walmsley's training block with Fauble's, they should also include (at least) December and February, and in doing so, quite likely wouldn't come to your conclusion that Fauble did something Walmsley couldn't handle, and maybe just the opposite.