Mary Cain Calls Out Letsrun

Athletes in every pro sport that is actually covered by major media (unlike track) has to weather comments by people on social media. Why should PRO runners be any different? This is such an inconsequential site that it is very easy to avoid unless you go out of your way to visit.

People on here told her that going to Salazar was a horrible idea and what thanks did they get?

Maybe she didn't read those posts.

We all get trolls on here, deal with it Mary.

I'm reposting my comment from another thread.

have two suggestions.

1. Ban users from using a different handle on the same day. I'm not an expert, but that shouldn't be hard to do automatically.

2. Dramatically increase the number of volunteer moderators so offensive posts can be taken down much faster. Volunteers would also have the authority to ban posters.

3. Bans should be meaningful and without a warning. "You know the rules. Step over them and get banned. Bend the rules and you get banned."

All bans would be indefinite. Banned posters could plead their case to a "review board" to be reinstated. I don't anticipate that would be much work either. Just tell the banned poster to start a thread and say, "My name is {real name} and I live in {real city}. One of my posts was deemed offensive. I apologize. It won't happen again." Some posters would whine and complain, but it would clear out the bad apples in a few weeks. We could delete these posts eventually.

The problem isn't LetsRun per se; it's the 0.1% of posters who cross the line without consequences.

Just to add... any negative comments about minors that are personal in nature... body, emotions, appearance, etc... should result in the immediate deletion of the post and immediate indefinite ban of the poster.

But all that banning only works until you clean your cookies.

It's also not a solution that you have only registered users since you can make up fake accounts as well.

Mencken1976 wrote:

We all get trolls on here, deal with it Mary.

She specifically said and gave examples of the negative things people on here were saying about her when she was a 12 year old girl. You don't think it's wrong to say that stuff about a 12 year old girl, rather you think the 12 year old girl needs to "deal with it'. What is wrong with you? By what objective standard do you believe people should say that stuff about children? Are you a pedophile?

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But all that banning only works until you clean your cookies.

It's also not a solution that you have only registered users since you can make up fake accounts as well.

I think the key is to delete blatant troll posts quickly. If a troll knows that an inflammatory post is going to be left up for hours before it gets deleted, there is incentive for them to go ahead and make that post. By the time it gets deleted, thousands of people will have seen it and the troll will have already gotten the response they desired. If posts are routinely reviewed for deletion within five or ten minutes of being reported, then the incentive goes away and it is no longer worth the effort to post something inflammatory just so it can be seen by a couple of people.

I don't know how moderating here works, but I get the sense that there are basically just a bunch of people with moderating privileges who each just show up and review posts when they feel like it. This is fine if you are running some small time message board that gets a hundred posts per day, but it seems like it's time for something a little bit more organized and professional. It seems like an operation of this size could schedule coverage so that there is always a mod on duty whose job is to review reported posts real time.

image problem wrote:

This sentiment would go a lot farther if it were backed up by definitive action. The way this comment reads is that you're scared of personal repercussions, because you suspect this and similar controversial threads are picked up by a wider audience. If you want to clear your name, fix this site. You and LRC admin just pop in to controversial threads to defend yourselves and then leave. It feels like you just want to have a statement in a thread that could reflect poorly on you and the site.

If you mean what you say, reach out to her directly and not through this tiny post-it note in a forum. You wouldn't get any credit, but that's how it goes when you do the right thing sometimes.

He could start just by cleaning up all the crap on this thread.

Instead, if the usual moderating standard applies, he will just delete your post, and probably mine, and leave all of the toxic sh/b][it up there. When your moderators are posting in the thread it is not believable that "we didn't see it"

the board should be completely uncensored. right and wrong is 100% subjective. there is no such thing as right or wrong. it is all opinion.

She makes a good point. No one should be posting negativity about kids that age.

Ironic Isn't It? wrote:

It's ironic that Cain posts to "Fast Women", a website that excludes men and other genders.

No. Nothing about it is ironic.

crazzzy1216 wrote:

the board should be completely uncensored. right and wrong is 100% subjective. there is no such thing as right or wrong. it is all opinion.

I agree for the most part. The lewd remarks are one of the few things here I don't care for.

That's about all I can agree with M.C. about. She has a point, Letsrun can make changes or leave their site alone, it's up to them.

Further discussing this topic seems dumb but perhaps because this subject comes up time and time again LRC will make more changes. Or not? time will tell.

quicker deletion wrote:

I don't know how moderating here works, but I get the sense that there are basically just a bunch of people with moderating privileges who each just show up and review posts when they feel like it. This is fine if you are running some small time message board that gets a hundred posts per day, but it seems like it's time for something a little bit more organized and professional. It seems like an operation of this size could schedule coverage so that there is always a mod on duty whose job is to review reported posts real time.

Nobody knows how moderating works here. That is one of the key problems of letsrun.

Some things get mysteriously deleted and if you complain loud enough they come back.

There is no consistency or policy, they just wing it.

I'll hold my breath until Rojo is required to post under his name. Probably the same for many other moderators.

Precious Roy, you have a point and any pro should know to ignore this, but the thing is that this site does not only elevate the sport and spread news and training information, it also helps to kill enthusiasm and enjoyment in it because of the relentless negativity, much of which consists in personal attacks on weight and looks. That on a wider level is what the British tabloids long ago did to their own athletes. They made it so unpleasant to be a good athlete, they killed the drive. Only bringing in a lot more money in relation to London 2012 built it back up a bit--still a shadow of what it was in the 1980s. And just look at how Seb Coe reacts to winning gold in 1984 to see what effect the tabloid criticism was already having on their athletes. He runs back to spew venom on the hated press instead of enjoying making history.

zxcvzxcv wrote:

She makes a good point. No one should be posting negativity about kids that age.

+1

It's silly to think that most of the negative posts on this site have to do with weight and looks. That's not even close to the truth.

Most of the negative posts have to do with some kind of bizarre personality disorders of the moderators and their sycophant followers. They have some very deep seated psychological issues and narcissistic tendencies.

By the way, why does Roy think he is Precious? And why is there a guy who thinks he is a Benevolent Dictator? Talk about personality disorders.

Are you trying out for a coaching job with Mary?