On December 14 Sage Canaday raced and won a 10k in 32:36. Can he run a 2:19 marathon in Houston?

Is it too late to call the Hansons? They coached him to 2:16 and 64 minutes. Sage is still young for the marathon game. No excuse for this serious decline.

Bubbadeeboos wrote:

He did one of JS’ magical workouts on a track recently, 20 x 400. He seemed to do okay, given how windy it was during that workout (and at altitude). I’m very surprised by this 10k. I’d have thought a low 31:xx would be the slower side if what to expect .

Please! Haven't we heard enough about that joker JS ?He was proven to be a joke already. Now does anyone know if he was racing it or what happened? Let's wait till he responds. We can't just go off a time, since he won. He may have just stopped by for his holiday and decided to run. Lot's of my mates do that.

JS is a loser wrote:

Please! Haven't we heard enough about that joker JS ?He was proven to be a joke already. Now does anyone know if he was racing it or what happened? Let's wait till he responds. We can't just go off a time, since he won. He may have just stopped by for his holiday and decided to run. Lot's of my mates do that.

As a few other people have already said, he posted a vlog about it. He was upset. He was hoping to have run 31. He clearly wanted to run faster but couldn’t. His 32:36 is nowhere near a 2:19 marathon. The question is - does he have enough time left to get the necessary speed to run a 2;19? It seems very unlikely.

He did speak wrote:

JS is a loser wrote:

Please! Haven't we heard enough about that joker JS ?He was proven to be a joke already. Now does anyone know if he was racing it or what happened? Let's wait till he responds. We can't just go off a time, since he won. He may have just stopped by for his holiday and decided to run. Lot's of my mates do that.

As a few other people have already said, he posted a vlog about it. He was upset. He was hoping to have run 31. He clearly wanted to run faster but couldn’t. His 32:36 is nowhere near a 2:19 marathon. The question is - does he have enough time left to get the necessary speed to run a 2;19? It seems very unlikely.

He said he was sick!

That was not good wrote:

If you watch his video about the race, he was clearly disappointed. Says he will get bloodwork to see if something is up. But yeah, not promising especially at sea level!

I believe he's somewhere on the autism spectrum. Obviously very high functioning. Ivy league grad and all of that. But he's got some obsessive things going on and overthinks everything.

The top guys keep it simple and they don't worry about this and that. Jumping from this to that. Getting way into the weeds, second guessing, etc.

Take care of the basics. Stay the course. Keep it simple. Stick to the tried and true.

The 32:36 is just about 3 sec per mile faster than 2:19 marathon pace.

Now if he just wanted to get a good effort in at marathon pace, it would have been ok.

But a time trial on a fast course should be more like 31 min and a real race even close to 30 min flat.

His disappointment may show that the intention was indeed a time trial like effort, and that his shape might be more like 2:25+ at the moment instead of 2:19.

Sick basted wrote:

He said he was sick!

Vegans always look sick, nothing new we didn't know about. He looks like he needs a blood transfusion due to lack of bio-available iron and other nutrients (which incidentally will also boost his performance by 5-10%, enough to smash the OTQ).

Sage is washed up, he should retire.

Maybe pick up some Uber shifts or something. Not sure he has any real life skills.

The Prognosis wrote:

Sick basted wrote:

He said he was sick!

Vegans always look sick, nothing new we didn't know about. He looks like he needs a blood transfusion due to lack of bio-available iron and other nutrients (which incidentally will also boost his performance by 5-10%, enough to smash the OTQ).

Meat eaters look fat and disgusting. And they die early from diseases like coronary artery disease, diabetes, cancer, etc.

Also, the last place finisher is always a meat eater

Father time wrote:

Sage is washed up, he should retire.

Maybe pick up some Uber shifts or something. Not sure he has any real life skills.

That's priceless! Lol.

fat and disgusting wrote:

Meat eaters look fat and disgusting. And they die early from diseases like coronary artery disease, diabetes, cancer, etc.

Also, the last place finisher is always a meat eater

Easy there, buddy! Go easy on your mom!

The Prognosis wrote:

fat and disgusting wrote:

Meat eaters look fat and disgusting. And they die early from diseases like coronary artery disease, diabetes, cancer, etc.

Also, the last place finisher is always a meat eater

Easy there, buddy! Go easy on your mom!

weak

do better

Who cares? The fact that you dug this up is an indication that you should live more of your own life and worry a lot less about other people's. His 10k time or if he runs a 2:19 or not, how does that have any impact on your life? Probably as close to zero, if not zero impact

Partridge wrote:

The 32:36 is just about 3 sec per mile faster than 2:19 marathon pace.

Now if he just wanted to get a good effort in at marathon pace, it would have been ok.

But a time trial on a fast course should be more like 31 min and a real race even close to 30 min flat.

His disappointment may show that the intention was indeed a time trial like effort, and that his shape might be more like 2:25+ at the moment instead of 2:19.

His plan sounded like he was specifically coming down from altitude to run a fast time. He wanted to run at least 31. I think he is clearly in 2:25+ shape though. Can someone go from 2:25 to 2:19 in 30 days? Well, much less, keeping in mind he should have been planning at least a two week taper - so two weeks to get there? He needs a pharmacist at this point.

why does this even involve you? wrote:

Who cares? The fact that you dug this up is an indication that you should live more of your own life and worry a lot less about other people's. His 10k time or if he runs a 2:19 or not, how does that have any impact on your life? Probably as close to zero, if not zero impact

Is this a joke? Sage involves the entire world in his plans. He does it for the Ad revenue. “Dug this up?” Are you an idiot? Do you think this guy is exposing a secret? Watch his vlogs. All he does is endlessly post and advertise about his plans to qualify. This post is making Sage money - how many people have watched his vlog about this very same disastrous result? That’s money. Whether or not Sage can qualify and his training is an open public dialogue started and encouraged by Sage to make Sage money.

Disclosure: I hope Sage qualifies, I hope he runs 2:15, I hope he does so eating plants, roots, and cardboard. Best of luck to him.

With that said, I get the reasons he doesn't eat meat and I have no problem with how he chooses to eat. I am curious as to why Sage won't at least try switching things up and adding meat to his diet as it has the potential to improve performance. If I was trying to do something that didn't work the first time, I would make any and all reasonable changes (especially a change that has worked for other people). Remember, the meat-eating mountain lion will catch and kill the vegan deer every single time.

Should I buy Sage some bacon? He looks like he could do with it, I'll send it to him from England, hope it gets there in time!

Baltsu wrote:

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

When was the last time he competed on the track? Or in the mile? Is that any surface any distance? No. Sage haphazardly attempts to qualify in the marathon on Olympic qualifying years. That is not any surface any distance. The shorter races serve as fitness tests. You're not trying to run your best in those races.

He cannot even do training on a track because he lives in a strange place where tracks are owned by schools and because he is not a kid anymore, he cannot access those facilities. Everywhere else at least outdoor tracks are public spaces like parks where anyone can do their training when they want to.

In the US mostly yeah. Just moved to Europe 3 months ago. Everything fenced off with like three layers of high fences. I wish I was kidding. And the running club does not allow me to come and do my own workout. If I come I have to join theirs. Sucks hard.

OTQ or bust wrote:

I like Sage and was really hoping he would qualify, but with Houston 33 days away, is it realistic to think he can qualify when he can only manage a 32:36 10K? Anyone think he can still do it?

Should he have come to the brojos for training help? Is there still time for them to help him?

Race results here:

https://www.hubertiming.com/results/2019EHH10K

My god..this thread is ruthless..

It'll be close, I for sure hope he gets it, he was close 2 years ago @ Houston. He's been running strong the 2nd half of the year so we shall see. It's a tough time of year to get in peak shape, with the holidays and after a year of racing, not ideal.

More importantly, it was awesome to see his Dad running strong @ 65+ y/o